SANITIZING COMPUTERS
JUNE 23, 2009
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: Hello everybody. It is
2 o'clock, and I just wanted to welcome you all. Actually,
we're having a little feedback here, so let me take care of
that, and I'll be back with you in a second.
Oh. We just took care of it. Thank you, Liz.
So welcome. We're really glad that you're with us
today for this webinar.
This is "Sanitizing Computers and Digit Devices."
We're going to be going into great detail about this
subject and hopefully learning a lot from you and also
sharing a lot of information with you about this very
important topic.
First, we're going to give you a little tour of our
webinar system so you have an idea of exactly how this
works.
Basically, we have -- over on the right side of the
screen we have a public chat area. And then right below
that is a little space where you can actually type in
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If you go down to the box right below that, this is
actually a listing of all the folks who are with us today
and who's on board with us. We've got 22 folks on board
with us, and we're very excited about that.
We have somebody -- actually, Kimberly Griffin, who
is our transcriptionist, and she's done a fabulous job in
taking our webinars and making them available, doing the
transcript and all of that, working with Liz Persaud and
Sharon Meek, our web designer, and getting this information
right back up on the Internet on our website.
So we'd welcome you to visit that. It should be
available. We've been pretty quick about this. A couple
of weeks and it's up. And so anyway, that's where you
would find information about that.
You can actually save this if you wanted to -- this
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So if you need the information before it's actually
up on our website, if you shoot me an e-mail or Liz Persaud
an e-mail, you can actually get us at
carolyn@passitoncenter.org or liz, l-i-z,
@passitoncenter.org. We'll be happy to sent this to you
immediately.
So I'm going to first talk to you about and
formally invite you to join us for the National AT Reuse
Conference, which is going to be in Atlanta, Georgia.
We're very excited to be doing this with our partner,
RESNA. It's a group within RESNA that is called NATTAP.
And it's going to be September 15th through the 17th of
2009. And I'm going to have Liz talk a little bit about
the scholarships that are available.
LIZ PERSAUD: Hey, everyone. This is Liz Persaud
with the Pass It On Center. We are very pleased to
announce that there are scholarships available for anyone
out there looking for some extra funds and some extra
encouragement to attend the conference in September.
Again, it's September 15th through the 17th in Atlanta.
Feel free to get in touch with me. Again, it's
liz@passitoncenter.org. And I would be more than happy to
send you that scholarship form. And before the end of the
week is finished, we will have the conference information
up on the Pass It On Center website along with the
scholarship forms as well too. So feel free just to get in
touch with us if you have any questions.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: Thank you, Liz.
We're also going to be having some awards given out
at the conference, which we're very excited about this.
And this will be the first time we've done this. We're
actually going to be recognizing folks who have been
pioneers in the field of AT reuse, visionaries when it
comes to, you know, seeing what needs to happen in the
future when it comes to AT reuse, and then also folks who
have just started up.
And so we're looking at groups who are really big
and groups who are really small and the impact that they're
making in their individual communities. So we'll be
sending information out about those awards.
And we'd love for you to nominate programs that you
think have done a good job. Your own program is fine. I
don't even care if you nominate yourself. No problem.
So anyway, we're going to jump right in with this
topic. Also wanted to let you know, if you'd like to make
a comment to us, make a comment. We'll be reading those.
I see, Mary, you said that the microphone is
cutting out. Is it better now? Can you hear us a little
better now, I hope? And thank you for doing that comment.
We'll actually be reading those and paying
attention to that public-chat area as we're going through
this.
If you actually have a microphone, and you would
like to make a comment, then what you would do is you would
actually hold down your "Control" key, and that will make
it so that your hand is raised, and we'll be aware that you
actually have something that you would like to say.
And so I'll release the mic, and you can say
whatever it is that you would like to say, and then you can
release the mic back by letting go of the "Control" key,
and we'll continue.
So today we're going to be talking about sanitizing
computers and digital devices. And as I said, this
information will be available on the passitoncenter.org
website.
And I hope that you'll go there and visit our
website. We've made a lot of changes, and we've grown that
website quite a bit. And all of this information will also
be in our knowledge base.
And here's the basic agenda.
LIZ PERSAUD: The agenda, of course, Carolyn and I
are doing the introduction, and then Jessica Brodey is
going to jump in and cover some policy and procedures.
We're going to talk a little bit about vocabulary
in the work area and just mention some tools and supplies
that are needed as you're going through your work area and
doing the work that you need to do.
Carolyn is going to jump in on sanitizing a
computer and some peripherals with your computer as well
too.
Then we're going to also talk about sanitizing your
hard drive and wiping all that data. Because that's
something that's extremely important.
We're going to mention a little bit about
sanitizing phones and PDAs because I know that that's
definitely a hot topic out there that folks are looking to
get information on.
And then at the end we've got some information
about the National Cristina Foundation and wanted to
introduce them to y'all and the great work that they're
doing and the collaboration that they'll be doing with the
Pass It On Center and hopefully with all of y'all out there
as well too.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: All right. Thank you, Liz.
And, Jessica, I see that you're on. We're really
glad that you're on.
And, Lynn, thank you for the comment. We're
working on the microphone. So that's actually my fault. I
was holding up the microphone.
So basically we want to talk about and introduce
some concepts here.
So, Liz, do you want to address this one?
LIZ PERSAUD: How safe is your computer? A 2004
study conducted by the University of Arizona found that
keyboards and mice have over 400 times as many microbes as
a toilet seat.
So that actually grosses me out as I'm sitting here
telling y'all that. So very, very gross. And a lot of
exposure of different folks touching different computers on
different work environments.
In early 2008, the Center for Disease Control, CDC,
reported that 2007 flu outbreak in the U.S. elementary
schools was actually a result of the kids sharing computers
in the school.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: When we're talking about
sanitizing, we're talking not just about the keyboards and
the mice and monitors and all that. We're also talking
about data.
In 2003, two MIT students actually purchased 158
devices -- I mean disk drives from different locations and
found more than 5,000 credit cards numbers, medical
records, detailed personal and corporate financial
information, several gigabytes' worth of personal e-mails
on those drives.
It was pretty shocking, actually. And so we're
talking about the physical cleaning and then also the data
itself. And so we want you to just be aware of these
things.
Any of you out there who have worked with, you
know, drives, people donating their computers, you're aware
that 158 hard drives, that's not a big deal. You know, we
can get 158 hard drives in a day. Not a big deal to have
that many show up. What is a big deal is all the
information that's on them.
So sanitization. It's a form of cleaning that
removes potentially the harmful substances. Makes it safe
to use that object. This is actually, you know, some
definitions here. Sanitizing computers and peripherals,
digital devices really requires extra care.
Some of the other digital devices that we're
talking about, you know, it could be something like a
smartphone. It could be as simple as, you know, a cell
phone, navigational device, any of those things.
And it's important to pay attention to also where
all those things have been and making sure that we're
actually cleaning them in a way that's safe to -- and
remains -- that the integrity of the equipment remains too.
Data wiping and drive sanitization is also
critical. In computer refurbishing programs, we've got to
develop safe practices. Safe not just for the equipment
but also safe for the individuals that are doing this work.
So our learning objectives. What we're hoping that
you'll learn today is some policies and procedures needed
for your programs, some basic descriptions of appropriate
work areas, and some explanation of safety measures that
you want to take.
We also hope to give you some appropriate tools and
help you select those appropriate tools and supplies and
then also -- and you can get more of this information from
our website -- where you can get information about
documents and demonstrate procedures to sanitize computers
and other components.
So policies and procedures. Very important. And
they're needed to ensure that everybody understands what
has to be done and how it needs to be done.
I'm actually going to turn this part over to
Jessica.
Jessica, are you on with us? I think I saw that
you were here.
JESSICA BRODEY: I'm good to go. And I hope
everyone can hear me through my mic. Let me know through
the chat area if there are any mic issues that I'm having.
And thank you, Carolyn. I'm glad to be here.
I was going to take over and talk a little bit
about policies and procedures. Great.
And as Carolyn started to say, policies and
procedures are needed to ensure that everyone understands
what must be done and how to do it.
And so many people groan and moan about the thought
of really putting policies and procedures about
sanitization in writing. But it's really important because
it also creates a standard to assess compliance with the
right processes. And it's important for educating people
who are coming in.
Also, when you have policies and procedures that
are written up and you have some indication that on a
regular basis your organization follows those policies and
procedures, there's a legal assumption in your favor that
you complied with these stated practices and that any
problems that cropped up due to sanitization were probably
not your fault because you did the best that you could in
accordance with the set of policies and procedures.
So that's another good reason why it's important to
have policies and procedures in effect.
If I could have the next slide, please.
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to talk a
little bit about how to go about writing policies and
procedures.
Policy is a big-picture statement of goals. For
example, a policy could be, "All computers and digital
devices must be sanitized prior to distribution."
When we encourage you to write your sanitization
policy, here are some things that I believe each
sanitization policy should include: You want to specify
what should be sanitized, when it should be sanitized,
where it should be sanitized, who should be doing the
sanitization, and how.
It can be as simple as just, in your how, refer to
your procedures for sanitization.
And the next slide, please.
Whenever I talk about policies and procedures, I
like to put the policies and procedures in the context of
other things that you're doing. And -- I'm sorry -- the
nuts-and-bolts, step-by-step instructions specifying how to
accomplish the policy.
So while -- we can move on to the next slide.
So while policies go ahead and set your big goal,
procedures really are step-by-step instruction about how to
initiate the cleaning. It's really going to be not just
the goal of getting it all sanitized, but how do I do it?
What supplies do I use? What's the order for covering it?
When we talk about policies and procedures, I like
to put them in the context of all the other policies and
procedures your organization might have.
So the way that I always try and start is from your
table-of-contents view. If you were to have a policies and
procedures book, you're going to have a list of all the
different topics that are being covered.
And one thing might be to start with your
Chapter 1, which is your organizational structure. You
have all the different chapters, and you may have a
Chapter 5, which is about program operations. And all the
way down at 5.6 are your policies and procedures about
sanitization.
You can move on to the next slide.
So when you think about writing policies and
procedures, really try to think about where what you're
working on fits into the bigger picture.
Within 5.6, this is an example of what you might do
for your policies and procedures. And your policy could be
in multiple parts. You can start with a purpose.
We have a copy of a sample document with a
sanitization procedure that has a very good purpose. You
could pick up that purpose and underneath "Sanitization,"
you can say, "The purpose is to make sure that devices are
sanitized to protect against the spread of infection."
That could be your purpose that you start off with.
And then I like to treat everything as an outline.
So if you're all into 5.6, you start with A. "All
computers and digital devices received by a program shall
be sanitized immediately upon receipt and prior to storage
in program facilities."
5.6.B, "All computers and digital devices shall be
sanitized in the sanitization room."
5.6.C, "Only staff members that have been trained
in sanitization may sanitize equipment."
5.6.D, "Sanitized equipment shall be stored in
plastic bags to prevent contamination."
5.6.E, "All equipment that has been in storage
longer than three months shall be sanitized again before
distribution to a consumer."
Now, this is not a sanitization policy that you
would have to adopt. It's an example of the who, what,
when, where that I discussed in the prior slide.
Next slide, please.
We're going to move on to 5.6.F, "Sanitization of
computers and digital devices shall be done in accordance
with Procedure A."
So one thing that you can do when you're trying to
incorporate your procedures and your policies, at the
bottom of your policy list, you can put the specific how,
and you can reference a procedure that's outside and put
that behind or have that in a separate location in the
appendices of your binder of policies and procedures.
Or what you can do is you can list out some of the
information that's in your written procedure. For example:
Step one, "Advance preparation: Prepare a work area (wood
or tile floor) and stock the supplies that will be needed.
The following will be helpful in cleaning computers and
computer devices."
And I took some of the lists that are on our
separate procedure for sanitization that we do have a
sample procedure from.
So again, what's good here is you can use it to put
everything in one place in an outline form, and you can
have your policy, which sets your goals, and then you can
move on to the specific how-to procedures and incorporate
them all together in one place.
Or you could have only your policies in one place
and refer to your procedures that you keep somewhere else
in a different location.
That's really up to what works best for your
program. I often find that it works to combine it all in
one location so that you're not confused and lost and
wondering what your policy is. And then when you get down
to it and it says, "clean according to your procedures,"
you think, "Well, what are our procedures, and where do I
find those?" and have to go running all over.
Next slide, please.
What I think should be included in a good
sanitization procedure. And a sample one that we do have
contains all these things.
I think a purpose is important; the frequency with
which sanitization should be done; any advance preparation
that needs to be done; any rules that apply to your work
area; a list of tools and supplies; and then the very
specific steps for sanitization.
Today we're going to be talking about all those
different things here. And what's important to know --
next slide please -- is that these issues ... (audio
skipped) ... depending on what you're sanitizing.
So your sanitization policy could have -- could be
in multiple parts. You could have a
sanitization-of-digital-equipment-and-computers policy.
You could have an overall-sanitization policy and a
procedure that relates to computers, a procedure that
relates to PDAs, a procedure that relates to cleaning mice
and keyboards, and another procedure that relates to
cleaning something else.
The next slide, please.
So as I was saying, separate procedures for
different categories and types of devices is important.
You don't necessarily have to try and make one procedure
fit everything that you're working on.
And another thing that's a good idea is a
completely separate procedure for data wiping that you
group together in your location in your files with the
other sanitization processes. Because you might be
physically cleaning, but it's also a good time to think
about the nonphysical cleaning that happens.
Next slide, please.
I'm going to turn this back over right now, and
we're going to discuss the sanitization vocabulary. So I
think Carolyn is back up.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: Thank you so much, Jessica.
It's so helpful going over the policies and procedures,
giving examples of those. We have a few more examples
later on in the presentation.
Does anybody have a question for Jessica now?
Okay. Jessica, thank you so much.
So basically, when we're talking about
sanitization, a lot of people throw this term around, and
they're like, "Oh, we sanitize." But when we actually get
into your centers and start looking at what's actually
happening, and we find out that, you know, there's many
levels here.
So there's cleaning, which actually ranges from
physical removal of contaminants to sterilization. And a
lot of these, by the way, are defined by the FDA and other
organizations.
Sanitizing is a form of cleaning that removes the
most harmful substances. So that's sanitizing. So if
somebody says that they sanitize, they're removing the most
harmful substances.
If they say that they're cleaning, you know, that's
a different level. Detergents are chemicals that help
remove dirt and oil. And we're going to be talking about
this a little bit more. And disinfectants are chemicals
that remove and destroy harmful microorganisms.
So there's a big difference between detergents and
disinfectants and also the way that you want to treat
those, where you want to store them, and all of that.
Sanitizers are chemical or physical agents that
reduce microorganisms' contamination levels present on an
inanimate environmental surface. So that's basically what
sanitizers are. They're chemical or physical agents.
"Disinfection" means that you use a chemical
procedure that eliminates all recognized pathogenic
organisms but does not necessarily get rid of all micro
forms, including bacterial endospores and things like that.
So that's basically what that is.
Your work area. And we wanted to give you some
things to think about when we're designing a work area for
sanitizing computers.
What are special characteristics that, you know,
you must have in your work area? What services are
required? What are the tools that you need? Do you have
the right tools? And what kind of supplies are
appropriate? And do you have those? And once again, where
are you storing those?
The work area characteristics that we have found
that are the most helpful is when you have a separate
sanitization area. This is an area that doesn't have
carpet. The flooring should actually be wood or concrete.
You need to have ergonomic tables or counters because you
can really get detailed when you're cleaning computers and
other types of digital devices.
A keyboard, for example. I've spent literally 30
minutes cleaning a keyboard before. So I don't want to be
hunched over. I want to make sure that's -- I'm in a good
position.
You also want to be careful where you store
chemicals. You want to make sure that they're secure.
Also that they're not next to the furnace or something like
that. I've actually walked into different sites and seen
that.
You want to make sure that you have really thought
about the volunteers and your staff that's actually doing
this work and that they're safe. This should be one of
your top priorities.
Have you given appropriate training in handling,
you know, the devices and using the chemicals? Do they
know that you need to unplug, for example, devices or they
need to take the batteries out or things like that?
Is the area itself safe? Are you going to have a
slippery floor after you're finished with all this?
And have you taken appropriate personal safety
precautions as far as providing gloves, just like the
person who's in the picture here, or masks or other things
like that?
The service area in the work area, you need to make
sure, when you're considering this, that you have access to
power outlets that are properly grounded. You need to have
an ease of access to water and good task lighting, really
good lighting for the work area.
You also want to make sure that you have a drain,
if you've got a big area that you're going to be working
in, so that the chemicals can drain back out, you know, in
a safe way or a way that you can actually get the
chemicals -- you know, when you're finished with this, take
care of this.
When you're actually working with some of the
computer devices, you want to buy and have one of these
antistatic wristbands. That definitely can help -- a face
mask and a small brush -- soft brushes. Several of those
can be very, very helpful because there's lots of little
areas.
Dust is a huge issue along with some other
different spores and other things. We've found all kinds
of things in computers as we're working on cleaning them.
Anti-bacterial wipes. When you're looking at
supplies -- there's a whole list here, including antistatic
cloths, cotton swabs, disposable gloves, lint-free cleaning
cloths, the microfiber cleaning cloths, bleach, compressed
air.
You can actually get those compressed air cans in a
lot of different places now. We used to have to order
those, but you can actually get them at Office Depot or
wherever.
Glass cleaner can be very helpful if you know when
to use it. And then same with alcohol and/or alcohol
wipes.
And Jessica actually made a comment here, and I can
actually -- Jessica, do you want to jump back on and tell
everybody what you had just posted?
(Audio silence for several minutes.)
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: Hello. Thank you all for your
patience. If you do press your "Control" key, it actually
will try to grab the mic. So somebody had their "Control"
key pressed, and so that's what was going on, and our mic
was blocked on this end.
So, Jessica, you had made a comment. And I'm sorry
that we -- I had tried to turn it over to you for you to
share that comment with us, but we'll actually review that
comment here.
LIZ PERSAUD: Earlier, just a few seconds ago,
Jessica posted a link referencing a policy that she was
just speaking about. And she said that this could be a
free-standing procedure or incorporated into a policies and
procedures manual -- into your policies and procedures
manual. So it's a sample policy that she referenced
earlier.
So thank you, Jessica, for posting that.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: All right. We appreciate that.
So we're going to talk in a little bit more detail
about how to clean the computer itself. We're looking at
the case cleaning. Just, as I said, really and truly can
be a nightmare. I put a lot of information up here just in
case we did lose the mic so that you'd be able to read it.
And so I just wanted to share with you that it
really shouldn't take more than 20, 25 minutes, you know,
even if the dust is really bad or, you know, if people have
smoked near that computer.
We actually, in the early '90s and even late '90s,
got some really yucky, yucky smoke-filled computers. And
I'm sure many of you have also had that. But even with
that, it shouldn't take more than 20, 25 minutes to do
this, to clean these computers.
So how you would actually clean your computer.
Here are the steps, basically.
You need to turn off your computer. And actually I
would unplug it and remove the side cover. So you need
that screwdriver that we were talking about and (audio
skip)... off the cover case.
And these are different -- there are different ways
you can do this. Some of them just pop off. Other ones
you have to actually use a screwdriver.
And then you would actually expose -- you could see
the motherboard and other hardware components there. You
can inspect all the cables and connections. Just make sure
that the cables are not frayed, that they're not loose,
they're not pinched, they're not snug or otherwise damaged.
If you come across any of these that you see that
there's an issue in any way, you should immediately replace
them. And if a cable is frayed, don't try to patch it up.
I've seen this done before. You don't want to do that with
electrical tape. It's very dangerous. So we actually
advise that you replace snug cables with longer ones just
so it doesn't accidentally snap.
And it looks like Bob is making some comments.
And, yes, absolutely you would make a visual inspection and
make sure that the components do work. And you would make
sure to unplug the system before you pull the side panel
off. Yep. Just like I said. Perfect. Thank you.
Now, what you would actually do is get out that
compressed air. There are different ways to do this. And
you can actually spray the can in there and get all that
dust out. You want to make sure that you do have a face
mask on, you know, something to protect you.
There's going to be a lot of dust in there,
depending on how old the computer is. And it's going to
get all over. So the first time you do this, you're
probably going to think, oh, wow, I can think of many
different ways to do this.
So you'll find the right angle for you. You'll
find, you know, the right space, you know, how actually you
do want to do this. I made sure that I didn't do this
necessarily in a totally closed room, or you'll be coughing
a lot.
The case fans, the hard disks, the power supplies,
all of those things are going to have a lot of dust on
them.
And you can get a little vacuum. There are those
handheld vacuums. I've actually found them at Big Lots or
Target for, you know, less than $10. And you can actually
use one of those to suck out the dust while you knock it
lose with the compressed air.
You want to make sure that you follow the
directions with the compressed air. Don't spray hardware
at close range. You don't want to get right up to it
because it's pretty -- it will come out pretty hard.
And -- okay. Very good. And Bob actually has
another comment. And he actually -- okay. Great. Y'all
do it a little differently. You vacuum first and then use
the blower. That's a great way to do it.
So the main idea here is making sure that you're
getting things cleaned out. You want to break away the
dust, and you also want to -- if your case has an air
filter, which some actually do, you want to remove it.
And warm water will actually help remove some of
that dust. And you can also use -- you just use a cloth.
Lint-free is the best way to go. Gently dab away the
excess water. Place the filter back into the case.
And you can replace the side cover of the computer.
You definitely want to check and make sure there aren't any
cables that are lying next to any fans or hanging out.
I've actually seen where we've pinched cables and then
broke them in the process of trying to put this back
together. And fasten the cover back and restore the power.
Bob, what comments do you have about this process?
I know there are many different ways to do it. There are
lots of videos actually online of how to do this. So what
are your thoughts that you want to share? Anybody else?
Okay. As y'all are actually talking or typing in
or whatever you want to do there -- let's see if anybody's
got their hand up. Nope. Nobody's got their hand up.
Okay.
So now we're going to talk about how to clean a
keyboard. Keyboards actually can get very, very dirty.
There's been lots of studies out there that have shown that
keyboards actually transfer a lot of illnesses, and
especially ones that are in classrooms or that have been
used by a lot of different folks in libraries or what have
you.
Basically what you need is you need a lint-free
cloth, a dry cloth, or a duster; clean -- some type of
suitable cleaning fluid, an alcohol-based would be fine;
cotton buds; a can of compressed air or vacuum cleaner
works well.
And if you're going to do a thorough clean, which
is very, very, very time consuming, and I'm not -- I
wouldn't really recommend it unless you really have to have
that specific keyboard -- you would need a flat-tip
screwdriver.
Would anybody want to comment on that or if you
have a different practice?
All right. What you would do basically is make
sure that that keyboard is disconnected from the PC, remove
the main plug, unplug -- I mean make sure that you unplug
it. And it's helpful also, if you're putting it back with
that PC, that you remember which socket it goes into.
The first thing I usually do is hold it upside
down. Helpwithpcs.com has this procedure listed, and I
thought it was right along lines with what we've seen done
and what we've done.
So hold it upside down and see if it actually can
release any of that debris that might be in there. You'd
be shocked what I -- I've been shocked at what I've found
in keyboards. You can press down the keys to release some
of that.
And you can get your can of compressed air that you
were just using and use it to blow any debris from under
and around the keys. And then use a vacuum cleaner just to
remove it.
And it looks like Bob from Touch the Future and
ReBoot, you blow the keyboard first and test to see if it
functions correctly before you clean. Excellent point.
That's great.
So now what you can do is, after you've obviously
evaluated and made sure that you do want to clean it, you
can take the cotton buds and a couple of drops of cleaning
fluid and carefully clean the sides of the keys. And
there's a figure up here of how they did that. Once again,
we borrowed this from helpwithpcs.com.
After you clean the sides of the keys, you want to
take that lint-free cloth that we have, damp it with your
cleaning fluid, and make sure that you don't put the liquid
directly on the keyboard.
You want to give the surface of the keyboard a good
wipe-over using the cloth and trace the contours of the
keys. And you see that's actually in Figure 1.2. And once
again, we appreciate Helpwithpcs that pulled that together.
After you've finished, give the keyboard a
wipe-over again with a dry cloth and duster -- or duster.
And now you have a nice, clean keyboard.
This is, as I said, not as detailed. And a lot of
folks have found that you can get a lot of keyboards in.
And so you do want to do that visual test. You want to do
that physical test, see if it actually works, if it's worth
your time.
I would definitely not recommend popping those keys
off and getting that thorough, thorough clean unless you
really, really have to do that and you really need that
specific keyboard.
So the next thing we're going to talk about is how
to clean a mouse. So everybody at some point, when using a
PC, needs to clean the mouse. We found this is true.
And the way you can tell that your mouse needs
cleaning is it will start getting stuck; it will start
doing this kind of trippy thing.
I was using a keyboard the other day over at a
public-access area, and the mouse was doing that same
thing -- bump, bump, bump. And so I actually took it apart
and cleaned it while I was there. So basically -- and I
was thinking about all of you when I was doing that.
So you would unplug the mouse from the PC and get
a -- to get a hand and soft tissue and suitable cleaning
fluid. I didn't use cleaning fluid yesterday, but I didn't
have any.
You can actually use window cleaner for this if you
have it available. And then what you would do is
actually -- and this is for your standard mouse. You would
turn it over, and you would turn the mouse cover
clockwise -- anticlockwise to release the ball and remove
the cover and take that ball out. So you could actually
call that counterclockwise too.
So you turn that mouse over, release the ball,
remove the cover, take that ball out, use a soft tissue to
clean the mouse ball.
Just -- and I would, once again, give kind of a
visual look at it, see, you know, does it have anything on
it that might be the reason why it's actually giving you
trouble. Remove any of that. And, once again, you can
find all kinds of things there: dust, hair, any kind of
debris.
And then you want to look inside and see how the
three rollers look within the mouse. And then you would
actually need to clean those too.
So you can improvise on how you're cleaning those
rollers. I have used, you know, my fingernail before. You
can use different things to clean that. So you just want
to make sure that you actually get the dust out -- that's
the main idea -- and whatever debris is in there.
So then you would actually put the ball back in,
and you would turn the little dial clockwise to lock it
back in place. And now your mouse should be good as new.
Jessica, I see that you said you've lost sound.
Has anybody else lost sound?
Okay. And Bob said, "Be careful not to break the
metal tip when cleaning."
Absolutely. There you go. That's a great point.
Thank you.
LCD. And I was actually going to show you that
there's a video out there for how to clean LCDs. And I'm
going to click on this, so we're going to take a little
gamble here and see how this goes.
Give me just a second as I copy and paste this up.
I'm not going to be able to copy and paste it.
I have a link up here, and it goes to ehow.com.
And this is a very cool website.
Have any of y'all been on ehow.com?
Ehow.com actually has a lot of videos, including
very detailed -- and they had several of these -- of how to
clean your monitor. They have how to clean your mouse, how
to clean your keyboard, and other videos like that too. So
I'd encourage you to check these out.
We're actually going to paste this in just a moment
for you to see it so you can get an idea. You can go out
there and look for yourself at this specific video.
The main thing is that -- oh, and thank you,
Jessica. Jessica just did it. We appreciate that. And
yes. So you can click on that, and you should be able to
go and see this site yourself. So thank you.
There's a difference in the way that you would
actually treat your LCD monitor versus your CRT monitor.
And when you get more detailed with that, you can
actually -- you want to make sure, for example, that when
you're using -- you don't want to use cleaners necessarily
like alcohol, things like that on your LCD surface. You
would want to use just a lint cloth, something like that.
When you're using the CRT, which a lot of those are
now being phased out -- I know in our office we don't even
have a CRT monitor. Those are more the older style -- you
can actually use, you know, a window cleaner or something
like that.
But you don't want to spray it directly on the CRT
screen. You want to actually spray it onto the cloth and
then clean it from that point.
Once again, make sure that you have these unplugged
and that you're doing a visual scan just like Bob
recommended earlier. Make sure that you're testing this
equipment before you actually clean it.
So the next thing that we need to consider is
actually data sanitization. And this is so important when
it comes to looking at what is actually on that hard drive
and making sure that you're not giving away more than you
plan to give away.
You want to also let your donors know that --
either in your policies that you do -- and a lot of people
call it the Department of Defense wipe, DOD wipe. And
we're going to talk more about that in a minute -- or give
them the information of how to do that themselves. And so
we're going to talk a little bit more about how this works.
There are some policies that I wanted to share with
you that are pretty good that are out there. And some of
these actually are good sustainability ideas too.
There's a group out in Idaho that we've done some
work with that's actually charging money for wiping hard
drives, and they give a certificate after they've finished
this.
So not only does somebody donate to them, but they
actually are paying for a service to have the hard drive
wiped, and they also get that certificate that says that
this has indeed happened.
The computer recycling group -- and this is their
website down here, which is Computer Recycling Group,
c-o-m-p-r-e-c-g-r-o-u-p.com -- they have formalized their
approach and making sure the total erasure of all internal
and external data on devices.
And they list the devices, which include pretty
much everything: hard drives, memory sticks, anything that
they actually get.
They go on to say that these services are optional
but very affordable and that they -- especially if you get
a volume, you know, of equipment coming in, then they can
give you a better deal.
So I thought this was very interesting that they
actually do this now, that they see this as part of their
service and who they are. And a lot of other groups are
doing that too.
I thought this -- it went on to explain that
deleting files from the computer does not remove the data.
A lot of people think that. They think that, when they
have deleted the files, that they have deleted everything.
And I think anybody who's actually been working in this for
a while knows that that's not the case.
So explaining that and educating the folks that are
actually walking through your door and that are actually
donating to you can be a very helpful thing.
Once again, this is just a copy of their policies.
Their protocol actually uses the three-pass, or
more, binary wipe, which a lot of us know as the Department
of Defense wipe. And it explains here that it puts the
binary code back in a random pattern over the existing
data.
Also wanted you just to, you know, take a step
back, when we're talking about policies, and see if -- you
know, think about this. Is your organization compliant
with the new government data privacy acts?
These regulations require you to have customer
privacy policies in place. Your policy must include secure
document retirement in order to be compliant with recent
acts. And I don't know if many folks know that, but that's
indeed the case.
Some of these acts include HIPAA, the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Sarbanes-Oxley Act, the Patriot
Act, and the Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act.
So that's -- you know, that's where some of these privacy
acts actually fall into.
And I would love to get your thoughts, Jessica, at
some point, if you feel like offering them, about how those
acts actually do apply in more specific ways.
So there are lots of methods for insuring data
protection. And believe it or not, we've actually seen
some of these employed where people will physically smash
the hard drive and then give the rest of the computer to
us. I've seen people give us hard drives that have, you
know, drill holes in them.
But there are alternatives, and that's actually
what we're going to talk more about. Not how to get your
sledgehammer or your drill bit but how to actually use
software or other tools to securely wipe that data.
So erasing. Is that enough? It's not. You can
spend hours going through your computer, and I've actually
had people do this, where they bring a computer in, and
they have spent literally hours erasing everything that
they think they've erased, and then very quickly I was able
to show, no, we can get it back because you've only removed
the shortcuts. You pretty much made them, you know,
nonvisible.
Google. If you do a Google search, you know, and
you have your computer connected, you can see that there's
all kinds of options for system-recovery software that
allows pretty much anybody to get that data and reinstate
it.
So as I said, the deleted files reside on the hard
drive, and it's just not a great way to get rid of your
information because it doesn't get rid of it. So erasing
is just not secure enough.
And this is a great resource, by the way,
Webopedia. I actually have used that several times. It's
an encyclopedia dedicated to computer technology.
So is formatting enough? Formatting basically
means to prepare a storage medium, usually a disk, for
writing and reading.
So when you format a disk, the operating system
erases all bookkeeping information on the disk. It tests
the drive -- the disk to make sure that sectors are
reliable. It marks bad sectors, those that are scratched
and other things. And it creates internal address tables
that are later used to locate information. That's what
formatting is. You must format a disk before you can use
it.
So is reformatting or formatting the drive enough?
It's a bit more secure than erasing. That's true.
Formatting a disk does not erase the data, by the way, on
the disk. It only -- only the address tables are erased
when you format or reformat.
It makes it much more difficult to recover the
files. However, someone like Bob Rust or any number of
other folks who have expertise in this would be able to
recover the data very quickly. And so the idea is that
formatting really and truly -- it may be enough, but
probably not.
So if you've decided a disk format is a good
choice, then the very least you should do is a full format
rather than the quick format. So full format, not quick
format, if you're going to do that.
So wiping. That's what we would encourage you to
really look at. So -- strongly encourage you, actually.
So wiping is much more secure. It's more secure than
obviously erasing and reformatting.
And the term "disk wiping" is not only used in
reference to hard drives but actually any storage device.
So when we're talking about that cell phone, any of the
digital devices, cameras, what have you, you actually want
to -- thumb drives, any of that -- consider wiping.
And Bob made the point that formatting still does
not destroy all the data on the hard drive. That's
absolutely correct.
And, Jessica, I did move closer. So hopefully you
can hear me better.
So wiping is more secure. Disk wiping is --
including the company and individually licensed software on
the computer is -- it's actually deleted irrecoverably
before recycle or donating and giving the equipment out to
another person.
And the way this actually works is you can get
disk-wiping software. And there are various types out
there. I'm actually going to actually share some of these
with you. Some are free. Some you actually pay for.
And the thing is is that they're all different in
some little ways. The algorithms differ from product to
product, but basically they all generally write on the
entire disk either zero or one. And that's basically what
happens. And then you need to reformat.
The more times that the disk is overwritten and
formatted, the more times that -- the more secure that disk
is going to be. So the trade-off is extra time, but it
really does make a difference.
So as I promised, I was going to talk a little bit
about the Department of Defense standard. And that's
something that Bob actually referenced a little bit ago.
It says the DOD wipe, I think Bob said, goes seven
layers deep onto the hard drive, and it does a great job,
and it's free. That's correct.
So this slide here talks more detail about that.
This is really considered, you know, a good security level.
Medium is basically what they say when they're talking
about it from the Department of Defense standard.
To those of us who are doing this reuse, we think
it's a pretty high standard. It's a good standard.
So specifies three iterations to completely
overwrite a hard drive, and it -- six times, according to
what the Department of Defense had out there.
Each iteration makes two write-passes over the
entire drive. The first pass inscribes ones over the drive
surface, and the second inscribes zeros.
After the third pass, the government-designated
code of 246 is written across the drive. And then it's
verified by a final pass that uses a read-verify process.
So there are a variety of products that are
available for different operating systems that you can
purchase -- or as I said, freely downloaded -- that perform
more secure wipes than just that basic DOD wipe.
And this is an example. This is called Eraser.
And it is a free software that's -- source code is released
under general public license. It's an advanced security
tool for Windows.
It allows you to completely remove sensitive
information from your hard drive. It works with
Windows 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Windows 2003. And it
also does a 2003 server and DOS.
DBAN is one that we hear a lot of folks using. And
same with Eraser. I've seen success -- great success with
Eraser and also with DBAN, which actually stands for
Darik's Boot and Nuke.
It's a self-contained boot floppy that securely
wipes the hard drive of most computers. So "most" being
most PCs.
And so it automatically completely deletes the
contents of the hard disk that can be -- that it can
detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for like bulk
or emergency data destruction.
There's also a wipe out there for Linux. I know
some of you are actually working with Linux as your
operating system. And so this is one that you can use.
It's called Wipe for Linux. It's effective. It does the
same thing as I described before.
And then there's Macintosh disk-cleaning software.
There's the disk utility. It's built into Microsoft
Operating System X. It's under the security options.
And then there's also WipeDrive for Mac.
WipeDrive is actually -- and I'm showing you right now just
a screen shot of their website. They do both Mac and PC.
And it's -- if you actually visit their website,
which is very easy to get to, and you can do a Google
search on WipeDrive, and it will take you right there -- it
will actually go through and tell you what it is that they
do, how deep they'll go into erasing the hard drive, and
exactly how they work this.
They've actually done over 20 million hard drives,
which is a lot. And it's been approved by the Department
of Defense and trusted by the government agencies and major
corporations.
It looks like Bob has a comment. Some of the
wiping software only works with floppy drives. Yes. And a
lot of newer computers only have DVD and CD drives, no
floppy. That's true.
And what a lot of folks are actually doing is
taking this -- they're downloading it directly from the
Internet, burning it onto a CD or even putting it on a
thumb drive or flash drive and able to use it that way.
Thank you, Bob. That's helpful.
Blancco. I wanted to tell you a little bit about
this data cleaner. Blancco, actually if you're a member of
Tech Soup and you're able to get on and get software at a
discount, you can actually get it through Tech Soup,
Blancco.
The thing that's really great about this one in
particular is that you can actually wipe up to 16 hard
disks of any size at a given time. You can do it all at
once if you put it on a computer server.
And that's what some folks have actually done.
They actually will have a server where they load Blancco,
and then they'll connect the computers and wipe them all at
the same time.
This is a very effective way to do this. It's a
very efficient way to do this. Can be very cost-effective.
A lot of people have received servers as a donation. And
so this is a good use for that.
The other thing that's really nice about Blancco is
the software automatically generates a detailed erasure
report with the hardware asset management information. And
a lot of people like that.
If you go back to that whole thing that we were
talking about with sustainability and looking at what's
another service that you can provide, that is a service
that you can provide is the erasure, the wiping of the
data. And then you can give somebody that report in
exchange for that service. It's something that's very
helpful.
So this is just a screen shot of Blancco's website.
It's very easy to navigate. My screen reader worked very
well with it. They are very connected. They actually have
gone to a lot of the conferences. I actually met them at a
conference a long time ago. And very friendly, very
helpful.
They have a wide range of products at different
costs -- at different cost levels. And it's blancco.com if
you'd like more information about them.
Does anybody have any questions about the CD -- I
mean the wiping drives or anything along those lines or
anything that they would like to share?
Okay. I'll move forward. Great.
PCWorld, it's -- obviously it's a magazine. It's
been around for years. They have a wonderful website. And
it's got a lot of helpful videos including a lot of PC
topics: how to clean hard drives, erasing versus cleaning
and wiping.
This is actually a link to a video.
And, Jessica, you're so quick. I was wondering if
you could type that in. I apologize. I thought y'all
would be able to click on this and go to visit that site.
But anyway, this is a link to the pcworld.com video
of how to completely erase a hard drive. They actually do
talk about wiping instead of erasing, but they use the term
"erase" because that's what most people think of whenever
they are talking about getting rid of their information.
Thank you, Jessica. You are so quick.
So the next thing that we're going to talk about is
considering digital data. So actually digital data can
pose an even greater privacy threat. And when I'm talking
about digital data, I'm really talking about cell phones,
smartphones, any of those devices, you know, iPods,
anything that you have saved information on, MP3 players.
Some of us actually have, you know, products that
read books, and we can save those books. Anything that
keeps personal data or addresses or anything like that.
People store PINs, passwords, other sensitive information
on there, addresses.
And we actually trade these in much more frequently
than PCs. A lot of my friends are upgrading, you know,
their iPods. You know, they have the Nano, the Shuffle,
the iPod, the -- you know, and it continues. And they've
got all kinds of information on there.
It can also be very, very difficult to wipe the
data off of these. And the Washington Post actually
provided a very cool story about this, very good
information and very detailed information about it. So I
wanted to give them credit here because of some of the
information they shared.
If your device stores contacts and other
information on a removable S-I-M card -- SIM card is what a
lot of people call it -- you need to start by taking that
card out.
You know, the SIM card doesn't necessarily store
all the data though. A lot of people think it does, but it
doesn't. There's often a lot of information, including
call logs, photos, memos, other things that reside on the
Intel memory.
I found this to be true. I knew it but found it to
be really true when my BlackBerry broke a couple of months
ago. And I was trying to transfer all the information, and
I actually ended up over at Sprint because that's who I
have my service with. And I was like, "Y'all do it." And
it took them 30 minutes to do what it was taking me over an
hour to do because they had all the tools set up.
And I actually asked if they would show us how to
do this at some point, and they said that they would. So
we're hoping to connect with Sprint so that they can show
us kind of behind the scenes how they do this.
So -- oh, and Bob Rust, once again. A magnet
passed over a PDA, cell phone, or personal device, yes, can
wipe most of the data before the device is donated.
Excellent point. That's exactly right.
And including that SIM card that I actually told
you to pull out a little while ago, I was going to tell
you, if you didn't want that information anymore, just rub
it with a magnet, and you'll be much better.
To get rid of the data, often you have to employ
multiple reset commands. And those commands are not always
easy to find. I had a Samsung phone that I had all kinds
of information on there, and it took me ten different
commands to delete all the data, which is ridiculous.
And so there are sites, though, that are helping
us. And I'm going to show you one of those.
So Free Data Eraser. This is just some information
that I actually grabbed off of their website. And it's --
basically it's a tool that gives you the information that
you need to remove the contact names, the phone numbers,
all of that in a more simple way. All you have to have is
the cell phone manufacturer, the cell phone model. You
provide your name and e-mail address, and you click the
"Submit" box.
It's very simple. I've actually done it. And if
you don't get the information that you need, they actually
are very helpful in getting it back to you.
So this is a screen shot of what their page
actually looks like and what this cell phone -- this is
actually focused on the cell phone data eraser and how you
actually would submit this. So it's, once again, very
intuitive. There's all kinds of information in there.
They are putting new models up every month. And so
just keep checking if your model isn't listed. You can
also e-mail dataeraser@wirelessrecycling.com to request the
addition of a particular model if you have several models.
And once again, you could use this for smartphones,
PDAs, cell phones. They have a whole bunch of different
listings up there, which is very nice.
So, Liz, is there anything that you want to add at
this point?
LIZ PERSAUD: I think that we've covered it. We
definitely want to remind y'all to head on over to the Pass
It On Center knowledge base. And the web address to that
is passitoncenter.org/content to get some (audio
skipped) ...
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: Thank you for that great
comment. It's nice to see you on, by the way, as always.
So Sharon from Vermont said, "This is a wonderful
resource for any of our computer digital refurbishers to
encourage best practices."
So thank you. We really do appreciate that.
If you have more information that you want to share
with us, Bob, we appreciate you jumping in and sharing
information. Thank you. So valuable.
And any of you, if you have resources that you'd
like to share, we keep growing our knowledge base. And I'm
actually going to show you that in just a second.
But if you have questions about this presentation,
please contact us. You can contact Liz at
liz@passitoncenter.org. Trish Redmon, who has been
invaluable at helping us build our knowledge base, you can
contact her at trish@passitoncenter.org. Or you can
contact me, carolyn@passitoncenter.org.
I'm actually going to show you, really quickly, our
knowledge base. And it's actually at the
passitoncenter.org. And give me just one moment. Okay.
And we actually are featuring it right now on our
main website. And this is on our main home page. And so
you can actually get to it by clicking up on the top left
on the knowledge base. And this is actually a wealth of
information that has been shared from all kinds of
resources from around the country.
We're really especially thankful to folks like
Kansas and -- the folks in Kansas and other folks around
the country who have shared wonderful information as they
grew their programs.
It's very interactive, very intuitive, once again,
and you can actually explore the modules here and see, you
know, what -- if you have specific information that you're
looking for, you can do a search, and it will actually
search for that information.
Or you can actually just click on the modules
themselves or on any of the buttons down here if you're
interested in marketing, resources, what have you.
So please visit that website and be looking there
for more information about this topic of computer
sanitization and also digital device sanitization.
(Audio missing for about 5 minutes.)
We really thank you for your time and for your
participation. We hope that you'll actually come to the
conference in Atlanta. We hope to see you September 15th
through the 17th. It's going to be at the Omni.
We do have scholarships available and would really
welcome any of you applying for those. Liz Persaud is
actually going to be helping us in organizing the
scholarships. So e-mail her at liz@passitoncenter.org.
And if you have any other questions or any other
information for us, please let us know.
It was really exciting to see some of you who have
not been on with us before. We look forward to getting to
know you even more.
And, Mary, thank you. I appreciate that you said
that there's some enlightening practices. So thank you
all.
And you're asking -- Chase from -- hello, Chase,
from Kentucky. Good to see you. You were wondering, when
will the archive of this webinar be available? In about
three to four weeks is what Liz just told me.
So we'll have an accessible transcript. We will
probably go ahead and get the -- oh, Kimberly Griffin.
Okay. She actually knows. So she said in about three
weeks. And I'd put my money on three weeks.
We can actually get the PowerPoint to you sooner if
you would like that. If you need the transcript, that will
definitely be available in three weeks. So, Chase, just
let me know if you need it.
So any other questions or comments?
Julie, is there anything you would like to add?
Sharon asked if there are tours on September 14th
for FODAC and ReBoot at the conference. Absolutely.
The information that I shared during this -- the
computer sanitization, device sanitization, a lot of that
really did come from the experiences of ReBoot.
ReBoot is a really cool -- it's just a wonderful,
wonderful organization housed under Touch the Future,
Inc. Joanne Willis and Bob Rust and Lamar Polly and that
whole crew have done an outstanding job.
So if you want to see a lot of this in action, I
would encourage you to get in touch with those folks and
actually go on the tour September 14th of Friends of
Disabled Adults and Children, which handles a lot of the
more durable medical equipment side. And then right down
the street is ReBoot. So there you go.
Joanne and Bob, do you y'all want to provide your
information if people want to get in touch with you?
And, Joy, thank you for commenting there. Great.
All right.
If you have any other questions for us, let us
know. We will have National Cristina Foundation on board
with us in a future webinar -- next month, actually.
The next topics coming up for our webinars actually
are focused on E-waste, looking at legislation around that.
Jessica Brodey is going to be joining us along with Yvette
Naren for that one.
And also we'll be focusing on emergency
preparedness, emergency response and looking at step two,
if you will, of that whole topic. It's going to be the
second part in the series that Jessica Brodey, Elliot
Harkavy, and George Heake are pulling together.
And then the webinar in August is actually going to
be data tracking and inventory. And we're excited about
that.
So it looks like Joanne -- thank you, Joanne, for
posting -- that the e-mail address is
info@touchthefuture -- spelled out -- touchthefuture.us.
And the phone number there is (770) 934-8432. And that's
for ReBoot. Excellent.
Oh, and Lisa. Hello, Lisa. Thank you very much
for posting that. To register for the conference that
we're actually excited to be collaborating with NATTAP to
pull off -- this -- we're very excited about working with
them on this -- you actually would click this link. And
you can go there and register. So thank you, Lisa. That's
very helpful.
All right. So I think, if there's nothing else,
then we'll wrap up. And we will actually be having an
evaluation, you know, sending out a survey just to see if
this was indeed helpful.
You can actually get to that survey -- we'll have
it online, and we'll also e-mail it out to everyone because
we do want to improve and grow our webinars. And we
definitely want to be able to serve you through this
avenue.
So y'all take care, and let us know if there's
anything else we can do for you.
LIZ PERSAUD: Thank you, everyone.
CAROLYN PHILLIPS: That was Liz. All right. Take
care.