GOING GREEN IN SCHOOLS:
AN EFFECTIVE AT REUSE EXPERIENCE
~ FEBRUARY 22, 2011 ~
LIZ PERSAUD: Again, this is Liz Persaud with the
Pass It On Center. And it's so great to see everyone on
this webinar today. It looks like we've got people coming
in pretty quickly. So again, just thank you so much for
joining us today.
It's about that time to get started. It's
2 o'clock here in Atlanta. We're actually experiencing
some lovely weather today, and we hope that you guys are
all as well too. Again, thanks for joining us today on
this webinar.
We've got a really good and interesting topic here
from the Pass It On Center. This webinar is titled "Going
Green in Schools: An Effective AT Reuse Experience."
And we've got two very wonderful speakers today:
Sharon Alderman from Vermont and Karen Langley from
Massachusetts.
So before we get into the bulk of the webinar topic
today, I just wanted to go through some housekeeping tips
and some other things for you guys to keep in mind as we
jump into the webinar today.
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Moving along on the webinar, just wanted to let you
guys know some learning objectives for this webinar. We
are constantly supporting effective AT reuse in the school
systems.
Really and truly we've worked with some systems
here in Georgia, and we found that we end up hitting some
roadblocks. So what we're doing is watching New England;
we're watching Karen Langley; we're watching Sharon
Alderman just to see what they're doing.
So that's why I've asked them to be a part of this
webinar just to share their expertise and to let us know
lessons learned, things that they're doing, things that
worked, that don't work that we can all follow through.
So we encourage you guys to, again, ask questions,
use them, take advantage of the time that we've got here
together. Feel free to also e-mail us behind the scenes if
you guys have any questions and any experiences you want to
share as well.
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credits for this webinar. We offer CEUs through the AAC
Institute. So if you visit the aacinstitute.org if you're
in need of any CEUs, just click on their CEU submenu, and
you should be able to find all the information that you're
looking for.
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let me know if you run into any issues or have any more
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So if any of you wouldn't mind doing that, that would be a
great help to us here at Pass It On Center.
So again, any information that you guys have as far
as what you're doing in schools as far as reuse, feel free
to send us an e-mail address.
So we want to know: What schools are you working
with? Are you currently at a school with an AT Act
program? Are you with an AT reuse program? Are you just
doing reuse K through 12 or higher education? Are you
currently doing reuse in schools? How? What kind? Who's
involved? What are the barriers you're encountering?
So again, feel free to send us some information
behind the scenes. And you can send that to
info@passitoncenter.org. That comes straight to me, Liz.
And I'll be sure to pass it on to Sharon and to Karen, and
we can work with you guys directly as we're trying to
figure out how we can really bring reuse into the school
systems.
We just wanted to share some information as we are
trying to figure out some of these barriers with reusing AT
in schools. One of the big things that we are trying to do
is just get more information up on our website.
So many of you are familiar with the Pass It On
Center website, passitoncenter.org, our knowledge base
which has a ton of information on AT reuse from other
programs across the country and people that are just
donating their information from their programs on policies;
procedures; business plans, if you will, so everyone has
access to them so they can work with their programs on
effective reuse.
We're also launching NEED AT. This is something
that we've actually been working with for quite some time.
With our Find AT, with our exchange programs that are
listed on the Pass It On Center website, the whole premise
behind NEED AT is to get all of the exchange programs in
one spot so you don't have to go to each website or to go
to the Pass It On Center website and list all of the
exchange reuse programs individually.
What you can do is go to NEED AT, and we're trying
to eliminate those barriers between exchange programs. So
if somebody on the West Coast has equipment, and they need
to work out getting it over to the East Coast, we're trying
to work on that.
NEED AT is a live website. We're still trying to
populate it and to work with other programs that have been
able to do the premise of NEED AT on a small scale.
So it's just something that we're really working
on, and we're really hoping that schools will be able to
utilize this as well, too, on a smaller scale as they're
trying to figure out ways to cross county lines or district
lines or how to keep technology -- reuse technology with
the students as they move on from one school system to the
next school system.
And hopefully you guys can see the PowerPoint. If
you have any difficulty with that, please feel free to
refresh your screen on the upper left-hand corner or let me
know, and I can refresh as well too.
But this is a screen shot of what NEED AT looks
like. As you can see, we've just got the opening page up.
And again, we're working on populating that and hoping that
it will help with school systems as they're looking at AT
reuse.
Just wanted to point out how to get to the Find AT
that lists the current exchange programs from different AT
Act programs across the country. And again, it's on the
Pass It On Center website.
On the far right side I drew a purple arrow that
points to "Find AT." And once you click on that, this next
page shows the AT exchange networks, and they're listed in
alphabetical order. There's about 33 of them in there
right now, and it takes you directly to those exchange
programs.
And this is also just to give everyone a refresher.
I know that we've got a couple of folks that are on our
webinar today that are actually from school systems. So we
just wanted to point out that this is a great way -- this
is our database on the Pass It On Center website, and this
is a great way to find the AT reuse programs that are in
your state.
So this pulls up a map of the U.S., looks just like
this. You click on your state, and it gives you the list
of the programs that are doing reuse in your state.
And if any of you are not listed on here, we
definitely encourage you to jump on this page, click
"Register For an Account." It's free to do it and to get
your information in there so people can find you. And
again, you can always get in touch with any one of us here
at Pass It On Center for any assistance in doing that.
And again, this is just a screen shot of -- can
everyone hear me okay now? Wonderful. Thank you guys.
This is just a screen shot of the knowledge base.
Again, we have got information here for anyone just looking
for different aspects of reuse programs just to get
materials donated.
I know that Karen and Sharon both are going to be
sharing some information that they've utilized. We'll be
working on getting some information that they're willing to
share into the knowledge base. So please keep your eye out
for that as we add all the information onto our knowledge
base.
And I'll actually be posting this after the
webinar, but again, this helps us to provide credits to
everyone as we're building these webinars and offering more
to you.
But this is our link to fill out the evaluation at
the end of the webinar. And I'll be sure to make an
announcement at the end for a reminder.
So at this point I'm going to pull up the
presentation for Sharon Alderman, and I'm going to jump off
and let her take the floor.
So, Sharon, you are on as I pull up your
presentation.
SHARON ALDERMAN: Thank you so much, Liz.
We'll wait for the presentation to load here. And
I am the assistive technology reuse coordinator for
Vermont.
Your first slide that you will eventually see is
stating that I work for Vermont Family Network in the
Vermont Assistive Technology Program that's housed in the
VocRehab -- here at the bottom of the slide, the VocRehab
Vermont offices.
And we can go to the next slide, Liz. Thank you.
Our objectives here are to look at the process that
we've used to implement the exchange of assistive
technology, durable medical equipment, and adaptive
vehicles between schools in Vermont.
And schools can loan, sell, or donate via the AT
School Swap site, our toll-free service, our toll-free
number, and other services that we have available in
Vermont, the getATstuff.com, the New England website that
we'll be looking at, and referrals to other resources.
Okay. Next slide, please.
We're going to describe a little bit about the
history and the funding used to implement the AT school
exchange. And hopefully -- if you have any other
questions, we can be more detailed, but we did put a fair
amount of detail so that you can look back at the archived
presentation and kind of get some ideas about what it might
cost. Although Vermont is a fairly small state, so it's
different in different locations.
We're going to identify some administrator concerns
and the current status of our site and service in Vermont
and future plans that Karen Langley will be talking with
you about that they are implementing in Massachusetts that
will give us all the benefit of some changes on our basic
website platform. Look at some pros, some positive
outcomes, and some concerns that we have that have not
worked so well in Vermont.
The next one, please.
The AT Act programs of course have reutilization as
a priority for all the states and U.S. territories. And in
2007 the New England programs collaborated, got together to
create the regional community website and service.
And you'll see in the Get AT Stuff logo there that
that includes Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts,
Rhode Island, and Connecticut.
So we get -- through this website exchange that
we've created where people can post items that they don't
need any longer and get them to people who do need them, we
retrieve the federal reporting data that's necessary to
continue our programs.
In fiscal year 2008 and '9 we received a large
donation from one of our medical stores that went out of
rehab business. So over $638,000 was saved by consumers
that year -- that fiscal year.
And in the following year we saved over $478,000 in
the website alone. That doesn't include other methods of
reutilization, recycling and refurbishment organizations
that help us to get equipment to people who need it.
Okay. Next slide, please.
So in Vermont we focus on the access to the website
for the community and for all the states. If you'll see in
the first line there, "including all states." So we help
to support each other in New England and outlying areas as
well.
In the Pass It On Center website I did mention that
the "Find AT" that Liz had spoken about before, we always
refer folks to that.
If they're looking for something in particular
that's smaller that they can get from Arizona or from
California or from Idaho, they can use that website to
access that information.
We're looking forward to the NEED AT website, too,
where we can collocate all of our resources into one
resource across the country.
We encourage people to go to the getATstuff.com
website.
But there are many people who don't have computers.
And about 40 to 50 percent of our folks in Vermont don't
use the Internet, or they don't navigate a site well. So
we encourage them to call the nationwide toll-free number,
which comes right to my desk. So it's a
direct-to-the-coordinator number.
And we encourage people to post items that are
needed. And then I facilitate, with the help of student
interns from various colleges, exchanges between people who
have indicated needs.
And it's really funny because frequently somebody
comes up with a needed item within a week of somebody
posting one. It's very, very unusual.
Say it again, that we really do encourage people to
call that toll-free number.
Okay. Next slide.
So in Vermont we had the community exchange, and we
decided how about a school exchange because we'd been
hearing -- we'll see on the next slide that we'd been
hearing about the need for a school exchange.
Connecticut went ahead and -- you'll see in the
center there that Connecticut created the AT School Swap
website based on the Get AT Stuff site. They just went
ahead and got that going for us.
We'd all been talking about it. We meet on a
regular basis to collaborate and brainstorm ideas that will
promote the use of assistive technology and access to it in
New England.
And so it was created by Arlene Lugo in
Connecticut. And we in Vermont went right down and saw a
presentation that she had been making available to her
state special education coordinators and school teams.
And then MassMATCH put their website -- recreated
that website with the MassMATCH influence and put it up on
their website to encourage people to participate in a
school exchange.
And Maine had been talking about this for some time
and now is going to be doing pilot programs with their
early education intervention groups. They're going to get
that started, two pilot programs for nine different sites,
in order for them to share equipment with each other in
Maine.
Okay. Next slide.
We identified the need because we'd heard from
administrators and educators for some time that there was a
need for finding a place for the equipment that was in
closets and desk drawers that could be used. They saw it
as a need to be getting it to somebody who could be using
it.
And so each of our states surveyed potential users,
the school districts, school systems. In Vermont
86 percent of the respondents explained that they were
interested in pursuing this.
Next slide.
So we started to develop Vermont's AT School Swap.
I had visited with Arlene in Connecticut in October of
2007 -- no, November 2007, and we modelled our school swap
after the Connecticut site.
And we introduced to special education
coordinators, in April 2008 by e-mail introduction, the
possibility of starting a school exchange. Did a survey in
May of 2008.
Next slide.
Started teleconferences from July of 2008 through
February of 2009 introducing the Connecticut demonstration
sites that had been created. And you'll have access to
that on our slides to come. You're welcome to use those
sites to see what it would be like or what it could be like
to use a site in your state and the very successful
getATstuff.com site.
So from July 2008 to February 2009, we did these
telephone teleconference introductions using the web and
accessing those sites.
We spoke to the executive committee of the
special ed directors in 2008, August of 2008, and launched
in September of 2008.
And by June of 2009 there were 16 supervisory
unions participating. And currently today there are 31 of
our 60 supervisory unions participating. And this is at
varying rates. You know, there are some more consistent
users and some less consistent users.
But we've also included the University of Vermont
I-Team, interdisciplinary team, that is working with school
districts to locate assistive technology in various and
sundry professional disciplines. And they are also housing
one of our assistive technology try-out centers in Vermont
currently. So that's been a nice addition.
Next slide, please.
So we'll talk a little bit about the process that
we used to access the AT School Swap that someone might use
to become a member. And it is just for Vermont. The
Vermont School Exchange is just for Vermont currently.
Anyone in a school may make a request for an
account: an OT or a PT, special educator, school nurse.
And then the special services administrator. In
Vermont we've chosen to have that person authorize the use
of posting an item that's available to others or posting a
needed device. So the authorization has to come from the
special education administrator.
And the authorization and access can be for one
person for supervisory union. It may be that that person,
that administrator decides they're going to be the contact
person for everyone in the supervisory union, or it can be
up to one person per school.
Next slide, please.
So here's the request for account slide.
And next slide.
I'm going to go through these fairly quickly
because they're just informational for you so that if you
need to go back and look at what you might choose to use.
Then we send a special services invitation letter
to someone who's considering participating. And we include
the demonstration sites that Connecticut has so that they
can look at the possibility of what it might look like for
their state.
We also encourage people to add the e-mail
addresses to saved mail, because one of the difficulties,
one of the concerns, is that spam filters that school
districts have limit and can be a block for us in that way.
Next slide, please.
We ask the special ed coordinator to look at the
Vermont terms and conditions, which of course limits the
liability of the -- our liability in exchanging equipment.
And we don't exchange equipment. We provide the platform
for them to exchange equipment with each other.
Next slide.
And then there's the signature form.
Next slide.
And then we send out a poster or they will also
send it on e-file so that they can also post who the
contact person is in their district so that folks who have
equipment that they want to pass on to someone can contact
that person who's been authorized to make a judgment about
whether it's able to be passed on or not.
Folks will have information, and some schools are
better about this than others. I've been to a number of
conferences recently where people have said, "Oh, yes. We
have those in our school. I've seen those." So that's
rewarding.
Next slide, please.
I send out monthly updates to all special services
coordinators, all special ed coordinators and authorized
users and anybody at a conference who displays an interest
in this.
I send all the School Swap items available and
items needed and all the current listings for
getATstuff.com. And I've been sending that on an Excel
spreadsheet so people can easily search that for any items
they may be needing.
I offer to locate items needed and facilitate
exchanges to other local and interstate resources. In
Vermont we have the ReStore and a lot of mom-and-pop
locations. Wayward Wheels is one. Of course the DME
vendors in Vermont have used equipment at times.
And we go to the -- that REM stands for the
Refurbished Equipment Marketplace in New Hampshire.
They've been very helpful in helping us locate items that
our school districts need. And New England Assistive
Technology in Connecticut. And of course the Stavros
Center in Massachusetts.
And by e-mailing all the special ed coordinators,
even if they're not participating, it encourages
participation. And we encourage them to participate even
in a limited way.
And sharing in that someone -- one school district
will put up three items for free. It encourages someone
else to share. And people are starting to loan items. And
donating has been the primary way in which people have
exchanged items, which has really been wonderful.
Next slide, please.
So there's the website. And one needs to contact
an authorized user to post items available or request items
needed.
Next slide, please.
The Excel spreadsheet and encouraging people to
call the toll-free number.
Next slide, please.
And so we post a needed item. We encourage people
again to post a needed item on the AT School Swap because
we will assist with finding that item that's needed.
Through the website alone, and adaptive trike, a
swing, a Rifton stander, two Rifton chairs, gait trainers
have been posted and exchanged.
But there are lots of other ways in which people
get what they need. So locally and nationwide, we've
assisted in getting two PDAs for students in Barre, Vermont
from the Kansas Assistive Technology program. And so we
are looking forward to the Pass It On Center NEED AT
website.
We got a PT platform or a physical therapy mat from
Refurbished Equipment Marketplace in New Hampshire for one
school district for $50, by the way, and the mattress pad
that comes -- not the mattress pad -- the mat pad that
comes on top of that.
And then standers. One school district received a
stander from -- one of our physical therapists drove down
to Connecticut and picked up a stander that was being
offered for free from the Get AT Stuff website. And all
those other things are things that have come from the Get
AT Stuff website or another location.
In Maine and Connecticut schools, in looking at our
Get AT Stuff website, we've seen the benefit that they've
achieved from using that community website as well.
Next slide, please.
So the positives and lessons learned. Schools are
giving things and getting things that they need.
And professionals -- the really nice things is that
90 percent of the time, 95 percent of the time
professionals are guiding the items -- the exchange of
items and matching the equipment with the students' needs
so that you can rest a little bit more assured that people
are getting things that they need, and the people who are
receiving them are people who can make sure that the
seating and positioning is correct and make sure that the
item is sanitized appropriately.
The Direct AT School Swap website device exchanges
are not as high -- they're minimized because both schools
must be participants. So there is some difficulty in using
the website alone. If you've got one school that's a
participant and one school that's not, then the website
alone doesn't work.
And most folks who participate in the school
exchange by the website do need some assistance and
follow-up. And the participant posts items available on
Get AT Stuff and the AT School Swap sites. There's some
confusion there.
And this would be difficult to explain. This is
something that, if you have any questions about this,
please do call me later. I'd be happy to help you with
this piece.
But it gets a little complicated when the school is
using both sites, Get AT Stuff -- they post something on
Get AT Stuff and the school swap site. But we've been able
to sort it out pretty effectively. And the primary thing
is that the end user is getting what they need.
So items that we have -- that participants have
received from the Get AT Stuff have been like a $6,500
stander. Two electric beds have gone to different school
districts from the Get AT Stuff site. But what a savings
to those nurses that now have an electric bed to use with
the children in the infirmary, in the clinic.
Manual wheelchairs, Optelec. A wonderful Optelec
was donated to a school district. Often things are listed
at a price on the website, but often they end up being
donated. And as I mentioned, the platform mattress in
New Hampshire.
Okay. Next slide.
I'm going to go through this really quickly because
I want to make sure that Karen has plenty of time.
The lessons learned are the website alone doesn't
meet the needs, and you need a coordinator. Luckily in
Vermont we have the reuse coordinator. All states don't
have somebody that's focused solely on reutilization.
The teaching of the website and the system grows
independent. So there's much less to do as you encourage
people to do it themselves and show them how to do it.
We need to clarify the federal and state directives
on the disposition of federal equipment, which we've done
to some extent, but it just needs to be put into layman's
terms. So in general, schools don't exchange federal
equipment at this point in Vermont.
Clarification of the AT Act reporting between
states is -- we need to work on that as well.
Thank you. Next slide.
Liability concerns of administrators in Vermont.
The funding source requirements. If it comes from Children
With Special Health Needs, that's CSHN, or Medicaid, it
needs to be offered for return.
I do actually -- in Vermont we've been lucky to be
able to retrieve. I've worked with Vermont Medicaid to
retrieve seven categories of high-end Medicaid equipment so
we can then funnel those to nonprofit organizations.
And that's been an advantage; nevertheless, it has
to go back to Medicaid first, and then it comes to us to be
redistributed, depending on what it is.
Federally funded equipment. We've talked with the
Office of Management and Budget in Washington. We're
working on that.
And funds for someone to manage the inventory in a
school district and transport items has been difficult.
Nevertheless, you know, over half of our school districts
with 83 authorized users are participating. So I really
consider this still in its infancy, even though we've been
working at it for a couple of years. But it's been very
positive.
Next slide, please.
And just real briefly, 20 to 25 percent of my time
for two months to get this started with marketing,
distribution lists, teleconferences. And currently about
10 to 25 percent of my time a week is being used for the
school swap.
It cost us about a thousand dollars to convert the
website from Connecticut, $285 a year for the web hosting
with Agora-Net. And although we're going to look forward
to all the changes that are going to be made and will
hopefully help with those, $400 a year for marketing.
That's excluding table costs for exhibits. $124 a year for
phone calls made for AT School Swap and Get AT Stuff.
Next slide, please.
And of course what we're looking forward to is
hearing from Karen Langley about the AT School Swap site in
Massachusetts and the new strategies that they're going to
use and the revisions of the websites that they're going to
be making that will help us to make this even better.
And you'll have to go to the massmatch.org. She'll
explain that to you too. They have wonderful resources
there.
Next slide, please.
So I'm going to let folks look at this eventually.
Hopefully you'll be able to go back and look at it. But
it's basically that Nicholas was a child who needed a power
chair, had come to need a power chair. And his aunt, who's
an ATP in Vermont, found one on the website in
Massachusetts. And they were going to be moving from
Vermont to Massachusetts.
Next slide, please.
He had been having to have help all along. And
finally they found this wonderful Quickie power chair for
free. And after charging it up, his aunt said Nick had
been able to go where he wanted when he wanted under his
own power.
And for the rest of her visit she didn't see him
rely on anyone else for mobility. He used that chair to go
everywhere. He's back at school working independently,
navigating the halls for longer distances, tricked out his
chair with cool teenage trinkets, and he's accepted by his
middle school community.
When he outgrows his chair, his family plans to
forward the gift of independence, leaving it to someone
else.
So just the idea of knowing that kids in schools,
the more they get, the more independence they have -- it's
been wonderful. We've really enjoyed this.
Next slide, please.
So thank you all. And let me let you get to Karen
Langley, who is the director of the Assistive Technology
Community Supports at the Executive Offices of Health and
Human Services in Massachusetts. And she was the former
director of the AT Tech Act program in Massachusetts called
MassMATCH.
Karen, I'll turn it over to you.
Thank you very much. Please feel free to call.
KAREN LANGLEY: Hi, folks. This is Karen Langley.
And we're just going to take a few seconds for the -- oh,
the slide has come up already.
As Sharon said, I worked in the MassMATCH program
for a number of years. And although I'm not any longer
with MassMATCH, I do provide some in-kind support to them
as well and particularly around the AT program.
So next slide.
We're going to talk a little bit about why recycle
and reuse AT in schools. And you've already heard a little
bit of the reasons why from Sharon.
When we were thinking about this from a collective
New England point of view, we thought of a few things. One
is the school budgets.
Here in Massachusetts, we're seeing massive cuts in
availability of all kinds of funding at the state level and
at the federal level as well. And so we wanted to try to
figure out a way how we could support that.
We also know that many of the people who sit on our
advisory committee have reported that they've had family
members who were in school systems that, once the child
outgrows the device or moves on and goes on to college,
those devices stay back at the school system, and they're
not always reused. And so we wanted to look at the idea of
how to recycle those either abandoned or no longer used
devices.
And we also wanted to make sure that we had an
opportunity to recycle good equipment. And many times
we've seen people who've called us and said, "Well, I have
this particular piece of equipment at school, but my child
could benefit from that piece of equipment at home," and
want to know how to be able to go about and find equipment.
So whether it's to use the AT School Swap or, as
Sharon said, to use the Get AT Stuff as a way to get a
duplicate device. And we really want to provide an
opportunity to save some money along the way on the cost of
equipment.
Next slide.
Oh, and the last one is short-term loan for AT in
assessment. One of the things that we have heard about
particularly is that, when a student may be coming into a
new district, it does take time to get an assessment. And
while that assessment is getting done, a student might not
have the benefit of assistive technology.
And by coming to this program or, as we mentioned,
the device loan program or the Get AT Stuff, they may be
able to use these devices on a short term either to help
for the assessment purposes or while the assessment is
being done or the purchase is being done.
So next slide.
So as Sharon mentioned, we all kind of thought
about how we were going to do this. Connecticut, Arlene
Lugo said, "Okay. Let me take the lead on this." And she
basically contacted for Agora-Net to do some work from our
Get AT Stuff to develop a school swap program.
And so we all adopted her little logo and used the
same features. So when you look at some of the things that
you're going to hear from me, you're going to say, "Oh,
those are very much like Sharon's." And until we make some
changes, yes, they all are.
But one of the things that we did was, in terms of
our marketing approach for the program initially, was to
post out five or six things that we wanted people who are
interested in to know that we were going to do with this.
One was to track the schools' AT inventory. A lot
of the schools don't even know what they have for
inventory, particularly small schools. It might have been
something that was in a particular classroom. They don't
really know where it's gone. Is it still with the student?
Did it come back?
So we wanted to be able to track the school's AT
inventory and also have an opportunity to post the AT
inventory so that people within the school system can know,
yes, we have that device; this is where it is.
We also wanted to have the option to search
inventories of other schools so that, if two school systems
are both participating on the AT School Swap, they can say,
"Well, I'd like to see what other schools are using this
particular device," particularly if it's a high-end device.
If you're looking at the purchase of some devices
for augmentative communication, those are high-end and
high-cost devices. You might want to find out who else has
those and is it being used and looking at other schools.
So we want to be able to search the inventories of
other schools and to borrow it if it's available and to
say, "Well, gee, we'd like to borrow it for X period of
time."
It may be while you're doing an evaluation. It may
be while your school is doing the purchase. Or it may be
through the school year because the person is only going to
be there through the end of the school year.
We wanted also to let them know that this was an
opportunity for them to sell or donate AT that is no longer
in use and, as I mentioned, in contacting other schools
that have experience with the AT you want to know about.
So that was another piece of what our advisory
committee really said for us to focus a lot of attention
on, is this sharing of information.
Because it can be a situation where there's a
professional who doesn't have a lot of experience with a
particular device. It may be something that's come up from
an evaluation as a recommendation.
They'd like to be able to talk to another
professional in a school system about how that is working
in the classroom; how has the teacher been able to utilize
it; how has the student been able to utilize it; and to
have some professional colleague dialogue around how that
experience is in the school system.
So those are the major things that we were using to
sell the idea of the AT School Swap.
Next slide.
Okay. So one of the first things we did is, after
Connecticut put up the site, we adopted it. We made some
changes, and we put it up on our MassMATCH website. And
between the period of November 2008 through December 2009,
we had over 35 school personnel express an interest in AT
school swaps.
So what happened is they went on the MassMATCH
website, they had clicked on our icon around AT in schools,
and they saw our brief description of what this was all
about, and it was a sign-me-up.
That sign-me-up request came through our e-mail
account. And it was at that point we would contact the
person.
So those people that contacted us had a whole range
of backgrounds. It could have been somebody who was an OT,
PT, speech language. We've got parents. We had people on
advisory boards. We had middle school principals.
And I think, when they clicked on the button, they
thought all the sudden they're going to be totally linked
in.
Well, that's not really how we had envisioned the
sign-up process to be. And really what we wanted to do was
an opportunity to talk to that individual who had expressed
the interest and really garner their interest in going to
the next-level person.
And the next-level person we thought was the person
who was going to be the person who would be probably the
special ed administrator to authorize their school to be
involved in this kind of activity.
We found that there was a big breakdown in
communication in that particular piece. And so we're going
to talk a little bit about that in a few minutes.
But after talking with those 35 schools, three
schools signed up and really expressed a lot of interest in
pursuing it, but none of them ever posted any items.
So then going back to them and speaking with them
and doing some research with those schools and other
schools, what we found is they really needed much more
direct on-site support.
And much like what some of the things that Sharon's
doing, what they really needed was somebody who was going
to come in to their school and really help them to, one,
find the devices; and two, identify what the devices are
and what they do; and to put that information in some kind
of order.
Most of the schools, as I said, have been facing
some very serious financial cutbacks over the last couple
of years, and they didn't want to pay their OT or PT,
whatever the going rate, hourly rate was to spend their
time doing that.
And so we really were kind of in a quandary about
what we were going to do to get these schools who had
expressed interest to get the items posted. And then our
feeling was is, if we could get some schools up and running
and doing this, the other schools would see the value in
it. And, you know, you build a ball field, and they will
come. So that was our hope and our dream to do that.
Next slide.
So one of the things that we said was, in thinking
about, oh, dear, we don't have the staff within the Tech
Act program to go out to these schools and go in their
closets and try to figure it out, so how are we going to do
this?
So one of the things that we did was we have a
grant-making group in Massachusetts called the Shapiro
Family Foundation. And we had an opportunity to put in a
proposal to them, and we were fortunate enough to receive a
one-year grant from them to basically have a pilot
initiative.
The pilot initiative, as I mentioned, is for one
year. We were a little surprised we got it July 2010. We
weren't expecting to get it that quickly. We had put it in
in April. We thought we would have a little bit more
planning time. But we did get it in July of 2010.
What the proposal said was that we would target six
to eight schools in the greater Boston area. And the
reason why we chose greater Boston, even though we had
expressed interest statewide, is because the Shapiro Family
Foundation focuses on the greater Boston area.
The idea would be to find some students. And we
chose physical therapy students, and we chose Northeastern
University because we had a very interested professor --
physical therapy professor who worked on a lot of
assistive-technology-related things, projects she was
working with. Mass Rehab Commission, which is the state VR
agency, she was on their advisory group.
And she had expressed an interest in helping us in
this particular project. And so we formed a partnership
with her and three of her physical therapy students to go
into the schools and to do the work to identify, catalog,
videotape, and post the devices on the AT School Swap.
We also said that, in doing this, we wanted to make
sure that part of the students' jobs would also be, once
they did that, would be training the school staff in the
ongoing use of the site.
So we would get the site all set up; help them with
their passwords; set up and catalog all the devices, get
those all put on the website; and then teach those folks
who are going to be managing it how to use this on a
regular basis.
The other thing in terms of the pilot in working
with these schools, we wanted them to also provide us with
feedback during this one-year pilot to make the site more
user friendly.
Many of the things that we wanted to make changes
from the original AT School Swap site that we adopted from
get AT, we talked in New England about some of the things
that we thought needed to be changed.
So we initiated those changes with our web
developer up front and wanted the schools, these six to
eight schools, to try it out with those changes and then
come back to us in the spring and say, "Okay. I like this
feature. I don't like that feature. Could you add these
features?"
So it was really a two-part process which we had
envisioned to make the changes in how to use this AT School
Swap website.
The other thing that we changed a little bit was
making it more of an inventory-style listing of the devices
and to enable the schools to be able to run their own
reports of their devices and locations.
So if they needed data, they don't have to come to
us. They don't have to rely on us to give them anything.
They have the ability to edit, change, run reports, and do
what they need within the school system.
We also wanted to give them a list of resources
that they can have handy online on assistive technology
geared to educators. And there's lots of websites around
the country that have that. And helping them to put those
kinds of information right on the website, something handy
for them to get to right away.
And the other piece would be to have a
sustainability plan for those schools that we sign on and
for any schools that we sign on after July of 2011 and for
statewide implementation. So those were the major features
of what our grant proposal was set out to do.
Next slide.
So one of the first things that we did last
summer -- and I didn't put one of them on here, but I'll
mention it -- is we hired a part-time outreach coordinator
for AT School Swap, an individual who works two to
three days a week.
His job was to go back through the listing of --
and we had kept a listing of all the people who had
expressed interest in AT School Swap -- and go back to them
and contact them to see if they were interested in having a
presentation done with their school system and trying to
get them to sign up for school swap if they hadn't done it.
The other pieces, as we mentioned, we formed a
collaborative with Northeastern University and with the
physical therapy department, and they engaged three
students who came on board in September.
And we did training with them in the use of the AT
School Swap site so that they could, in turn, do contacts
with schools, and they could go on-site with schools and
teach them around the use of the AT School Swap site with
the outreach coordinator.
Up until I'd say from the period of September
through the end of January, we've done outreach to 50
private and public school districts and collaboratives.
During that time we've had an opportunity to sign
up a few schools, but that outreach was triple what we were
able to do in the previous years as a result of not only
having a dedicated outreach coordinator but also having the
physical therapy students working with us as well.
I wanted to mention some of the features that we
have been talking about in terms of the redesign of the
website.
One of the things that we had originally set up is
that you could only see what was on the site, the devices
on the site, if you were a member. And so one of the
things that we wanted was the ability for people who were
nonmembers to have a view-only feature so they can look at
the inventory.
And part of the reason to do that is to get people
to sign up, is saying, "Ah-Ha, there is something there,
something that I think I could use or my district would
want to use or my collaborative would want to use. And so
now I'm going to make sure that my special ed administrator
or whoever actually signs up when I can show him that these
devices are out there, and they're available for us to
use." So we have a view-only feature for nonmembers.
We also wanted to put a more detailed type of
inventory-style data collection tool. And we do have that
tool, and we will provide it to the Pass It On Center so
you can see it. But it's basically an Excel spreadsheet
that collects a lot of information around the device name,
a code, a serial number, a basic description of what the
device is, what AT category it falls under for the purposes
of our reporting, a listing type, how it might be limited.
That's an issue that comes up time and time again
is, "Well, I don't want just anybody to have that." You
can, within the listing type, limit who can have the
ability to borrow it or loan it to. You can say it's only
within my district. Or you can say it's only within my
collaborative. And you have full control over that.
It also includes the price; whether it's available
for professional consultation; the replacement cost; the
manufacturer or brand name; the date we've added it into
the inventory; the location, where is it located within the
school district; and notes.
One of the things is to be able to put some notes
on there about any kind of new features or things that
might need to go with it, whether it's switches or
whatever. So it has those kinds of things.
We also -- the way our Get AT Stuff works is it's
kind of a one-person log-in. And so we envisioned when,
you're talking about a school, you might want to have more
than one person. So we allowed for multiple personnel
log-ins with different levels of administrative approvals.
There might be people who can add things in, but
there's different people who can let things go out. So we
have designed it to have multiple approval levels.
I already mentioned we have developed the ability
for customized reports so the school can run them as
needed. So if somebody says, "Hey, I need to know what
we've got in our inventory, how many things are out between
September and December, and what stuff is coming in and
when," and they can run those reports, and they can manage
it as well if they want.
We also included a live-chat, instant-message
feature for school personnel to communicate about the
devices directly among themselves. So they don't have to
go through us. They can talk to each other through this
live chat feature.
So those are some of the features that we designed
up front as a result of talking among ourselves, talking to
our colleagues in the other New England states, and in
talking with some of the initial first schools.
Next slide.
So pilot data. So as I mentioned, we contacted 51
schools. We have nine schools signed up. And we're in the
process of signing up another school. So hopefully we will
meet -- some of those schools are beyond a pilot. So
hopefully we will have enough in our pilot.
You'll see the number of schools with inventory
loaded is zero. We had one collaborative, which is a
collaborative of five or six school districts. The
students have been working with that collaborative now for
a couple of weeks.
And as you'll see, it says "Number of items in
progress: 71." They will be loading up those 71 items
probably this week. We'll be loading up the information I
mentioned before.
They will go back in later on, and they will post
videos or any other kind of information that was not
included in the initial load-up. But we do envision for
that collaborative that the 71 items will be posted later
this week.
Next slide.
So some of the charges and concerns. I think
number one was the engaging the right person at the school
system. And when I say "the right person," it's not always
the same person in every place.
And so we spent time within the advisory council
trying to figure out who that would be. And we thought it
was going to be the special ed administrator. So we spent
time developing an outreach letter to them that really we
thought clearly defined why they would want to use this.
And we sent it to the special ed administrators in the 251
cities and towns in Massachusetts. We didn't get any
response.
So we decided maybe they weren't the right person
to go to. So that's one of the things that is really a
challenge for people is to find out who is the right person
at the school system to engage.
The second challenge was getting the sign-up forms
returned. As I mentioned, on our website we had "Sign Me
Up." And we would have somebody -- OT, PT, speech language
person -- would click that button, and that e-mail would
come to us, and then we would call them or contact them by
e-mail and say, "Can we talk to you on the phone?"
And during that time, we would talk about the need
for an administrator within their system to sign on the
terms and conditions and then complete a log-in sheet of
who was going to be authorized to do that.
And that's where there was a breakdown in
communication of whether we got those forms back quickly or
not. And as you know from the previous information, we
only had three do that. So we considered that was a
problem there in terms of the sign-up.
We also mentioned the school staff availability to
contact the inventory. They're saying that they had very
few people who had the time or the knowledge or the
interest to go in to their school in various classrooms and
closets and identify what was inventory, what was working,
what wasn't.
Another challenge is the school calendar. We found
that, when we would contact folks in early September,
they'd be saying, "Well, gee, we're just getting started.
We need a few weeks."
And so we'd wait into October, and we'd get to a
call with them or a meeting, and before you knew it, we
would have November vacation.
And we'd call them after November, and then we'd
have a December -- you know, February, April, and then we'd
have summer. So the school calendar is a very challenging
thing that you need to figure out strategies to work
around.
In terms of the support student interns, as I
mentioned, we were using college interns, and so we also
have to work around their availability. When does their
course start? What will they be able to do? What weeks
will they not be able to work because they have finals or
they have semester break or they won't be back for a while?
So looking at not only the school calendar from the
school district you want to go in, but if you're going to
be using student interns from a university level, looking
at their availability as well and trying to put together
your calendar of -- of what you're going to do.
The other challenge or issue is supervision of
those support student interns, is having that built in
upfront.
Who's going to supervise them? Is it going to be
your program person within your AT School Swap program, or
are you going to have built-in supervision at the college
level? And making sure that there's a communication link
with those two groups to make sure the information is
flowing so that you don't go down a wrong track with a
school system.
One of the issues that came up from schools when we
did go out and do a couple of presentations and one in
particular to a collaborative was, "Well, what if I lend
out my equipment; am I going to get my equipment back?"
The fear that, if they loan something out, the week
after they loan it, they're going to get a student who
needs it. So why should I send it out because I might have
somebody who needs it right away.
So those were some of the challenges that we've
identified over the last year or so for the program.
So we're going to go to the next slide, and we're
going to talk a little bit about some of the solutions to
consider. And we're still working on some of these things,
so I'm not saying they all work, but here's some things to
consider.
We mentioned about who was the right person. And
as I mentioned, it might be different people in different
places. And so it's worth looking into.
Who can be your AT champion in the district? Is
there somebody you can learn of who has a strong interest?
It can be a parent group. It could be an educator or
somebody with a family member with a disability. Trying to
find the champion for you in that district.
We found the two school systems, one of them being
a collaborative, and another school system that we're just
starting to hopefully get some inventory done in a week or
so, the collaborative was an advisory council member.
We had two advisory council members who are AT
professionals who have family members who use AT, and they
took it upon themselves to be our champion. And they
helped us to set up the meetings with the school district.
They did the work behind the scenes.
We would e-mail them and say, "Gee, we haven't
heard back from your school administrator." They would do
behind-scene work to try to get them to -- they were
wonderful.
So our advisory council members were really helpful
in terms of getting us in the door with two of the school
systems.
And so any other person who you can advocate for
the program. It may be that you've got a really good link
with your elementary- and secondary-education folks,
Department-of-Education folks. And if you have that, to be
able to use that. But whatever works, like I said, we need
to have an AT champion.
I also mentioned was getting the forms signed up.
And we found that many of the people, when they see
something, they want it now. They don't want to wait for a
call back from Karen Langley or somebody else a week from
now and then wait for the forms to get there and all that
other stuff. They're interested because they have a need
right now.
So one of the things that we did in the redesign of
the AT school site was to put all the forms that they would
be required to sign are going to be on the website so that
they can download those on the website. They can fill them
out, express an interest. They can copy them if they want
to. There's one that has a signature. So they can sign
that and get that back to us as quickly as possible.
So we've put all that information right there on
the website for them to be able to download as quickly as
they can.
As we mentioned, we chose -- because of the lack of
school staff availability to conduct the inventory, we
chose to use student interns. There's lots of ways to look
at that if you don't have student interns. It could be
within the school system. Is there opportunity for
students within the school system for some type of work
study?
I know from many years with my own children, I'd go
to the office, and there might be a student working at the
office. Is it an opportunity for students within a
district to do this kind of work and to support the
teachers and the OTs and PTs in doing this kind of work.
Or is it an activity that a parent advisor group or
other group might take on as something that they're
interested in doing.
So use of other than school personnel or teaming up
with school personnel to do the major cataloging and
developing of the descriptions and taking the photos of the
equipment.
As I mentioned, you do have to have a plan around
the breaks and vacations, whether it be for the actual
school that you're going in to do the inventory and
training on, or for if you're going to be using students.
So thinking about your work plan is to break out
your activities and chunks around those available times
that they will be actually in the classroom.
Next slide.
And as I said, you need to -- we did -- identify a
supervisor for the support students. And in our case, we
used the college professor who was overseeing the assistive
technology piece of their physical therapy program. And
she's been really wonderful in giving them orientation and
also making this a much more learning experience for them.
And they're doing a write-up of what they do within
the school system, keeping a journal. They're doing a
paper to RESNA and doing a presentation of what they're
doing and why they're doing it and how they're doing it and
how they feel that this is going to impact the community
and the school system overall.
So identifying how that might meet a student's
needs is an important piece and having a college professor
or other supervisor to work with them.
It's really important to make sure that you're
meeting regularly with the students and the supervisor
before they go out and visit a school district so that they
get the benefit of your knowledge of that district.
While they're meeting with that district, if
there's any issues that are coming up, ideas that they
have. And then after they've put the devices online and
have done some training, for some follow-up.
And it's really important to have that
communication linkage with them so that there's no
miscommunication. So when they go into the next school,
we're being consistent across all the schools.
They've also been wonderful about giving us their
impressions and suggestions for enhancement. They're in
now talking with school personnel. They're hearing from
them when they see our presentation. Oh, I would like
this. Oh, I'd like that.
We want them to get that information back to us
because, as I said, this is a two-part process. This is a
pilot, and we're doing enhancements up front, but we're
going to do some enhancements at the end as well.
And then also to ensure schools know they can set
the parameters on borrowing.
The question about am I going to get my device
back? You can choose -- and you can put it in the
limitation section. You can choose to loan only to those
schools that you have a relationship with.
I mean, if you're part of a collaborative and you
work really well with three other schools, you can put in
there "This device is only available to school districts
Belmont, Lexington and Arlington." If that's what you
want, you can do that.
We also provided them with a sample ATSS loan
agreement form that describes the device but also specifies
a period of time that it's available for.
So you can say that "This device is available for
you for this period of time ending the school year." So if
you don't want them to have it next school year, you can
say, "You have to have it back by June 30th or June 15th."
So we do encourage that the schools set the
parameters on who can borrow and also use the sample loan
agreement form.
Next slide.
The next slide is our contact person. And I
believe Kobena is on the call here somewhere along the
lines. Kobena Bonney is the MassMATCH program coordinator.
And on here is his contact information. Or go to the
MassMATCH website or call our toll-free number.
And that's our presentation.
LIZ PERSAUD: That is wonderful. Thank you so
much, Karen. A ton of wonderful information. Just helpful
resources. Again, thank you so much for sharing the things
that worked for you and things that didn't work for you.
And same for you, Sharon.
And Sharon has also posted a phone number to
contact them. It says "Please feel free to contact us with
questions for access to any New England state coordinator.
Nationwide toll-free number (888) 827-2714." And that goes
to Sharon in Vermont.
And Sharon says "Thank you so much, Karen."
So and at this time I want to release the mic and
just give a moment. Does anybody have any questions or
comments? Anything that you want to share or would like to
ask Sharon or Karen? So I'll release the mic for just a
few seconds.
Okay. Well, it looks like we don't have any
questions right now. And again, please know that you can
contact any one of us directly if you have any comments or
any questions or anything that you'd like to know from
Sharon or Karen personally as they're working with these
programs.
And Trish with Pass It On Center is online. And
she says "Wonderful experiences on which to base a start-up
school swap. Thanks to both of you."
Thank you, Trish, for that comment. And I
definitely agree.
Again, Sharon and Karen, we appreciate the time
that you've given us in collaborating with us and sharing
this information as we move forward with this.
It looks like Kevin Riggs with FODAC in Atlanta
asked a question. "How do you handle equipment that needs
to be fixed or cleaned?"
And I'm going to release the mic and let Sharon or
Karen answer that question. So here we go.
SHARON ALDERMAN: Kevin, this is Sharon in Vermont.
This is a device exchange between people who have
equipment and people who need equipment. So we don't do
any of that ourselves, but we would refer folks to
locations where they might be able to get those types of
things accomplished.
In New Hampshire, the Refurbished Equipment
Marketplace provides that kind of service and would like to
have it noted that they are available to do such.
And of course New England Assistive Technology,
Bruce Stovall and the folks in Hartford, Connecticut, Don
Hoerman, do as well. And you, of course, in Atlanta,
FODAC, I would assume.
And of course our durable medical equipment
vendors, which we support and encourage folks to connect
with professionals regarding any specific things that they
need.
Luckily with the school exchange, as I mentioned,
it's really nice that there are professionals most often
who are overseeing those exchanges. So they know that they
need to make sure that those things are done.
Thanks, Kevin, for your question.
LIZ PERSAUD: Thank you for the question, Kevin.
And thank you, Sharon, for answering that.
Does anyone else have any questions or any comments
for Sharon or Karen? I'll release the mic one more time
before we say goodbye.
Okay. Wonderful. Well, again, please know that
you can get in touch with any one of us, anyone at the Pass
It On Center, and also with Karen Langley and also Sharon
Alderman. And again, Karen put up the contact information
for MassMATCH program coordinator Kobena Bonney.
Again, thank you guys so much for joining us for
this really important topic. Please keep up with the Pass
It On Center. Look for updates in our reuse news brief
that we send out every other month and also on the website
as we are building the information and getting resources
together as we're looking at New England and what they're
doing for AT reuse in the school systems.
Here's the link. I just posted it. So we need
your feedback. This is the link to our evaluation for this
webinar. Again, it just takes a few seconds for you to
fill in the information.
We really appreciate you guys helping us out with
that information on the evaluation. That really helps us
to offer credits for everyone. So again, really appreciate
you being on here.
And, yes, Sharon, great thought. We would like to
brainstorm with other states; so please do contact us.
Contact Sharon and the folks up in New England as they're
working on the AT School Swap.
So again, if there are no questions or comments, we
appreciate everyone being on here. Please know that you
can get in touch with us at any time.
This information on this webinar will be archived
and posted on the Pass It On Center webinar page in about
three to four weeks. So you can utilize that to refer back
for any resources and contact information.
So thank you again. And we look forward to meeting
up again with you next month. Thanks so much. Take care
and bye-bye.