HOW TO GET EQUIPMENT FOR REFURBISHING WEBINAR
JUNE 29, 2010
JOY KNISKERN: This is Joy from the Pass It On
Center, and we welcome you to today's webinar on how to get
equipment for refurbishing.
And in a moment we'll introduce our fabulous panel
of speakers, but first Liz is going to take you through the
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LIZ PERSAUD: Thank you, Joy.
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Again, thanks so much for joining us on today's
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Thanks again, everyone, for being here today.
JOY KNISKERN: Thank you, Liz. That was very
helpful.
And what I'd like to do is just introduce our
webinar objectives today. And then after that I will
introduce our speakers.
And our learning objectives today are really, we're
here to learn strategies and steps to get equipment for
refurbishment.
And we want to take away some promotional ideas and
examples to plan for getting equipment. You're going to
see some really neat ideas that other programs have
initiated that we're really happy to hear about.
And as Liz was saying, a lot of the materials
today -- all of them, in fact -- will be on our website and
our knowledge base as well as in the webinar section.
And then we're also going to hear lessons learned
from peers across the country who have successfully
received equipment through donations and collection and
donation drives. So that's what we're here about today.
And several years ago when we first started working
with the Pass It On Center, one of the things that we heard
so continually from people is: How do you get really good
equipment?
And so we're going to look at that, and we're going
to learn some steps to take and then some steps not to
take.
Let's move on to next slide.
Our guest speakers today are Sara Sack and Patty
Black Moore from the Kansas AT Program. They'll be joining
us first with their presentation. And then we'll follow in
with Cathy Valdez and Jerry Rivera with Project MEND in
San Antonio, Texas. Sonja Schiable and Robin Ramsey are
joining us -- thank you all -- from the FREE Foundation in
Virginia. And then I'll wrap up with a few comments about
what we've learned -- some lessons learned -- from our very
first collection drive here in Georgia.
So with that, Sara and Patty, let's just take it
away with their presentation.
SARA SACK: (Audio skip) ... and also on the call
this afternoon is Sharon Morton and Sheila Simmons also
with the Assistive Technology for Kansans project. And
they may be, you know, sending messages in and sharing any
of their thoughts, too, about collection drives.
So in just a minute hopefully you'll see the slide
which is our title: "Equipment Collection Drives: Will
They Work For Your Program?" Always that kind of
$64 million question.
If you'll advance the slide. Can you go ahead,
Liz?
What you were going to be able to see here -- and
unfortunately we have difficulties with the webinar
platform at this time -- but you would have been able to
see about a minute-and-a-half piece of footage that was
taken by one of the local television stations that actually
showed one of our collection drives in process.
And the TV commentators interviewed a number of
donors of equipment and a number of individuals that were
coming along looking for equipment.
This footage has been posted, and there'll be a
link, I'm told, here. I guess I can see here it is now at
the Pass It On Center, and it appears in the "New Knowledge
Base" section.
So I would encourage you to go out and look at it.
We think that piece of footage kind of gives you a good
representation of what a Kansas collection drive may look
like and give you an idea of the type of equipment, the
quality of equipment that we were able to recover through
that collection drive.
We'll go ahead now to the next slide. Can we go
ahead, Liz?
Some people are telling me they're seeing a road
map. Maybe I need to refresh. We'll try that. No, I'm
not seeing it even refreshed.
Okay. All right. Evidently everybody else has a
road map. You didn't get the last one. Okay. I guess
it's coming through in different ways to folks. I'll let
folks here try and see if they can get this system on.
If you have a road map, it should tell you
basically what we'd like to talk with you about in the next
15 minutes or so.
And we want to tell you a little bit about
Assistive Technology for Kansans, which might help ground
you, basically who we are and how the reutilization program
works within our program and our state and what we've
learned in the process of holding collection drives.
And then we're going to be brave and share some of
our biggest bloopers with you and then hopefully our best
and latest -- and/or latest tips with you.
If we go ahead now to the next slide.
This slide we're not seeing but hopefully you are,
which will tell you that -- it's titled "The Statewide
Assistive Technology Program: Assistive Technology For
Kansans."
And the reutilization program in Kansas is part of
our statewide Assistive Technology Act program.
The Assistive Technology for Kansans, the broad
program, has four core services. And those of you with
Tech Act programs know very well what those are.
But if you're not with a Technology Act program,
the four core services revolve around device loan, device
demonstration, funding of that equipment, and then
reutilization.
And then all Technology Act programs also help with
information and referral and training. Some programs have
other funds designated to help conduct assessment. And
they all have public awareness activities.
If we go ahead now to the next slide.
A little bit more about Assistive Technology for
Kansans in particular to help you kind of understand us.
We actually partner with AgrAbility -- ah, now it's on our
screen. Yay.
We partner with AgrAbility, and we help injured
farmers, farm workers, and agricultural workers continue in
their role on the farm. This is part of our Assistive
Technology for Kansans program. And then of course our
reutilization program also offers used equipment to those
individuals in our outreach effort.
And then you can see the last item there on the
slide are Kansas Equipment Exchange, which is our
reutilization program.
That's what it's called here in Kansas. It's not
an exchange program. It was named way, way back. It is a
reuse, refurbish, and reassign program. And we actually
operate that particular program in conjunction with Kansas
Medicaid.
So if we go ahead now to the next slide.
You'll see a little bit -- you'll get a little bit
of an idea of what Kansas looks like. It's a big state.
It's 410 miles across. We're actually down in the far
lower-right corner. And for us to get up to the northwest
corner is about a ten-hour drive. So it's a big state.
We have five assistive technology access sites in
our state as part of our Technology Act program. And we
have one affiliate site that is just a reutilization site.
So all of those six sites serve as our
reutilization centers. And that will kind of play in when
I explain the collection drives and how we actually ran
those and where we ran them and which ones worked and which
ones were a little bit more of a challenge.
The next slide.
We tried to kind of give you a thumbnail sketch of
our reutilization program and what we try and refurbish and
reassign. We consider ourselves a full-spectrum
refurbishment and reassignment program.
And we bring in power and manual wheelchairs, a lot
of bariatric equipment, patient lifts, electronic hospital
beds, augmentative and alternative community systems, and
so forth. What we don't take is we do not take crutches,
canes, and life-sustaining devices such as ventilators.
We serve the whole state, as I just kind of showed
you. And we focus on recovering, refurbishing, and
reassigning really high-cost, lightly used items. So
that's always our question out there of, you know, are we
really finding and recovering those really high-dollar
items.
And, you know, that other really tough question:
Are we finding items that are lightly used so that we're
not using our refurbishment dollars to bring them back up
to high standards.
We collect between 800 and 900 devices a year, and
we reassign approximately 700 devices. We don't have much
in our storage system. We keep items only for 120 days.
And we really try and push and get the items matched to an
individual and then on out.
So we have very little storage. We have a number
of partners in the state with smaller loan closets, and
after the 120 days, we make this equipment available to our
other partners and our loan program partners.
So if we go ahead.
And we're trying to locate the used equipment.
We're trying to be very much a data-driven -- and we are
very much a data-driven program.
So we choose our event locations based on the need
for the particular device and the area and based on the
inventory, the current inventory.
So when we know that an area is really low on say
manual wheelchairs, that will be what we'll emphasize
either in our collection drive or our other public
awareness and locating activities, which we'll talk just a
little bit about.
So if we move to the next slide.
You'll see what we've tried to do in our full
spectrum of activities for locating equipment. We've done
a lot with targeted donation appeals to both organizations
and individuals. We've had radio campaigns. We've done --
and I know this is what everybody wants to hear about
today -- the equipment-donation drives. And we've held 13
equipment drives across the state.
And if we advance to the next slide, this will give
you an idea of where we've held these 13 drives.
Our program started in 2003, and our equipment
drives have really been just the last three years or so.
You can see there -- again, the little white squares are
where our access sites are. Those are our distribution
centers.
For the most part, with exception there of western
Kansas -- and it's kind of misleading there on the eastern
section -- we have not held our collection drives at our
distribution centers. We've gone outside that home base
and partnered with other entities to actually hold
collection drives in their communities.
So you can see we've had three out in the
western -- in the really rural portion of our state. We've
had three there in that north central section. And as you
move east, in the eastern part of Kansas is much more
populated. We've held two there in that center circle, and
then we've held two in the northeast and then three in the
big metropolitan areas of the eastern side of the state.
So that's kind of our experience base that we're talking
from today.
And if you move to the next slide.
You know, we're all into process. And so, you
know, the questions that we have and continue to have
before we're starting a collection drive.
The big question for us is: Why are we considering
a drive versus another form of locating the equipment?
And we kind of have centered that -- I mean
obviously you can get equipment from holding collection
drives. But another main purpose for holding the drive may
be public awareness.
And I think it helps us in setting our expectations
for the drive and probably also setting your budget for the
drive to really hone in there. Are you looking at public
awareness? Is that as important to you or maybe even more
important to you in some areas than the equipment?
And then secondly: What type of equipment are we
trying to locate?
Are we in need -- as I said earlier, we're a
data-driven program. Are we in need of very specific
equipment? If we are, probably a collection drive may not
be the avenue, you know, that we take. We may decide that
we want very specific radio campaigns and outreach to
specific organizations.
If we're looking more just general equipment,
equipment is low and we need it, a collection drive may be
the approach that we may decide to use.
The big one for us is that question number three:
Where would you hold the drive? And I kind of alluded to
that earlier: The home territory versus at a partner's
site.
We've had some interesting experiences. We've had
a full variety of partners. And some of the things that
you need to think about early is, you know, is the partner
really going to share in the work, or is the partner just
going to say, "Yeah, you can use our building. You can use
our parking lot. That's great."
Or are they going to be there with you that day,
and are they going to help go out and promote the event?
Do they want to split the equipment?
In one instance early on, that was a question. We
had one group that said, "Well, yeah, we'd love to partner,
but we want" ... and they had a whole list of equipment.
We worked it out, and it in the end worked out beautifully.
But at first it felt a little strange, and it was something
that you clearly need to think about and talk about early
in the process.
And then here's the big one that we learned,
storing equipment. If you're holding a collection drive at
another person's facility, will they be willing to help you
out and store the equipment for a short period of time so
that you can really take a look and see how much equipment
that you did bring in in the collection drive.
And then for your transportation you can, you know,
target the size of the truck and the number of people that
you need to really move that equipment and not use
resources, you know, if that amount of equipment did not
come in. You can just be more exact in what you're doing.
If we move to next slide.
I know a number of you have heard us talk and other
people talk about really looking at your return on
investment. And again, that's always something that we do
with our collection drives.
The example that we're showing here is some of our
early drives -- whoops. We just jumped ahead -- I'm not
even sure how many slides -- oh, no, we didn't. I
apologize. I turned the page too soon.
I guess we -- yeah, we have more questions -- of
course, more questions to ask before we start the drive.
Oh, yeah, these are important ones too.
Do you and your staff have time to devote to a
drive? That's a very critical question. And when we do
get to the point where we talk about the return on
investment, our early drives I don't think we really maybe
probably gave credit to how much time it took to plan the
drive, meet with people, and so forth.
Now, after we've grown and operated more drives, I
think our estimates of the realtime are probably more on
target.
We're guessing now that it takes us 40 hours of
staff time before a drive to get it all organized and then
to participate in the drive.
But then there's all that time after the drive that
I think it's easy to overlook. You've brought in all those
equipment. You've got all those thank you notes to write.
You've got all the details to resolve. And we're guessing
that that's about another 24 hours. So that's 64 hours of
time for the drive.
Another big question, and this we've adjusted over
time too: Does your budget really support a drive, or are
there other means that may be more cost effective for you?
Do you have financial partners that can help with the
drive? And are you able to advertise sufficiently? And
we'll show you our advertisement budgets here in just a
minute.
And then the big one: Do you have the money to
refurbish the items that you bring in? I think, again,
early on we did not budget sufficiently for the
refurbishment of these items. And that is, you know, a
significant amount of money.
And then that question: If you're holding the
drive off-site -- and we kind of talked about that a little
bit earlier to plan for -- ahead of time -- how are you
going to transport or store the devices until you're ready
to transport them? And then do you have the budget to back
that up?
All right. So now I can turn the page. And we are
ready for the return-of-investment slides.
And this is the first one, as I said, is one of our
earlier drives. And you see there's our budget. We had
$2,863 in advertising. We rented a U-Haul and our fuel for
that. And we had some volunteer gift cards for the staff
that helped during that day. And we have our personnel
costs there.
These were smaller drives. And, you know, you can
see the total budget for running one of these drives was
$5,000 -- a little over $5,000.
And you'll notice, from what I've just said, we've
learned over time this doesn't have any budget for
refurbishment, any amount set aside for the refurbishment
of those items, and in this case, the 137 items that we
brought in in those drives.
But if we take the cost and you subtract -- you
know, if you look at the value of what you brought in and
you take -- you know, subtract the cost and divide and so
forth, you come up with, for every dollar that you spent,
you brought in almost $14.
Now, we felt like this -- I mean this is a standard
way of calculating the return on investment. But the one
thing that we're not sure of yet -- it will be interesting
to hear the other speakers -- of whether you believe that
the equipment that you get in on collection drives might be
just a little more worn than equipment that you get in
under other ways of more targeted, direct, person-to-person
activities.
So what we did with the next slide is show you a
further calculated return on investment from these drives.
And we looked here to see the really high-cost items that I
told you earlier that our program was really looking at.
In this case, we said, okay, our purpose -- and
see, that early question: Was your purpose to locate
specific equipment, and/or was your purpose for public
awareness?
So if you valued in your return of investment the
number of people that now know about your program, of
course your end figure would be different.
But here you can see that we did go back to those
drives, and we looked to see, you know, how many manual
chairs we brought in, how many power chairs we brought in,
how many scooters, because those were high-cost items that
we were particularly looking for.
But our return on investment came down, but it was
still over $8. So for every dollar that we spent, we had a
return, a positive return, of about $8 -- a little over $8.
So we're just throwing that in to kind of help
people keep thinking about that bottom line and looking at
the various options for what we're doing.
Okay. If we can move to the next slide.
Things that we've learned, kind of considerations
for the day of the event. And this was one we kind of
stumbled onto.
And looking at our volunteers and who was helping
with these drives and, you know, just what do you expect
from everyone that's participating, and do they know and
are they comfortable with that role?
And so one of our questions was: Would everyone
there be greeting the public, or would there be some people
more in the background in cleaning the equipment that came
in or in the inventory process? So that was just a general
question that everyone asked.
Move to the next slide.
And the questions that we asked were: Will there
be specific staff responsible for taking inventory of your
incoming equipment?
And we learned over time it gets very, very hectic.
And we would highly recommend that you have everybody's
roles kind of designated before people start arriving
because it gets wild.
And we would recommend that you inventory as you
go. Don't just take things and say, "Thank you very much,"
and put them aside because, as the day goes on, you'll be
tired, and you'll wish you'd started inventorying at the
very beginning.
A big question for -- I know if you've done this, I
know you're probably nodding your heads -- but are you
going to accept all donations or not?
And our practice has been we do accept all
donations. And we have vendors actually participating with
us in our collection drives and in some cases actually
hosting the collection drives, which is fabulous.
And we have them help us determine what is really
going to be quality equipment and what we need to just kind
of recycle right at that time and just move on.
We've quietly put, you know, not -- not electronic
items but other items in the dumpster at the end of the
day.
But we do take them. When the pickup truck comes
or the van comes, we just say, "Thank you," and take the
items.
Another question you might want to think about with
collection drives is: Are you going to offer a charitable
contribution for this?
And we do, but we're fairly quiet about it. So if
someone asks for it, we offer that we have the charitable
contribution. We don't have a big sign saying, you know,
get your charitable contribution here.
What we have learned is that we actually work with
the vendors and have them, if at all possible, determine
the value of that item right as the individual is there.
We have had a couple of instances in the past where
we didn't have the vendors right there with us, and we
wanted to be accurate in our value of that particular piece
of equipment. We didn't want to put the 501(C)(3) in
jeopardy at all, and so we were going to give the valuation
notice -- you know, mail it to them later. Well, then
there was some question about their particular piece of
equipment, and it was uncomfortable.
So we would recommend that, if you are going to
offer charitable-contribution forms, that you do it on-site
right at that time and not get into that mail-it-out-later
situation. But others may have solved it in a different
way.
So if we move on to the next slide.
And the question here -- and you might think, Gee,
you've said this three times now, Sara.
But as you can guess and as you would have seen in
that piece of footage at the beginning, there is that huge
question of what are you going to do with all that
equipment at the end of the day? And where are you going
store it? And are you loading it into the van as the day
goes on -- which, you know, there are some advantages to
that -- or are you just going to set it aside and at the
end of the day put all like items together?
That's a pretty big logistic question that you and
your team want to think through.
In one situation up in northeastern Kansas, we were
fortunate, and when we actually asked the hosting
organization, they said, Yeah, we have a barn. Let's just
transfer the things to the barn at the end of the day, and
then, you know, you can come up next week when you're
rested and relaxed, and you can bring a real U-Haul truck
that really will fit and help move all this equipment.
And so that was the best of all worlds.
If we go on to the next slide.
What have we learned about donation drives? And
this first one I know sounds incredibly ridiculous. It's:
Consider conducting -- I can barely even get it out.
Consider conducting multiple drives on one day.
And Sharon Morton, our coordinator here with our
KEE program, kind of stumbled I think onto this. And out
in western Kansas we had folks that really wanted to
partner, and so she actually ran three drives at one time,
and it worked fabulously.
So from that experience, then we said, Okay, how
about in our metropolitan areas? We have Topeka and Kansas
City, and they're about a little over an hour and
20 minutes probably distance between them.
So what we did was we held a drive in Topeka in the
morning and a drive in Kansas City in the afternoon. But
it helped a lot -- both of those examples, especially the
first example out in western Kansas, Sharon was able to
bundle the advertisement and say -- you know, have the
general ad running and then say, you know, in Dodge City
it's at such-and-such location; in Garden City it's at this
location.
And that just worked really well. It really got
the word out, and it was an effective way and we believe
still is an effective way of holding collection drives.
And that second point is really advertise your
event, developing a public-awareness component, having
radio and print ads and a lot of signage at the collection
site.
The third point, clearly you need help. You need a
lot of people to pull these off. You need a lot of people
to get the word out through their communities. If you can
have the local folks going out to their civic
organizations, that is really, really beneficial. We've
had great turnout when that's occurred.
So if you establish partnerships in advance -- and
we've worked with Hospice. We've worked with the Area
Agencies on Aging. We've worked with the developmental
disabilities organization, the independent living centers.
Just a lot of people are willing to partner for these
activities.
In each case our KEE coordinator, Sharon Morton,
traveled to each of the cities in advance and really
established personal relationships. And we believe, again,
that that's -- it really contributes to the success of the
events that we've held.
Sharon would hold planning meetings and coordinated
with the partners and their resources. So that really has
helped stretch all of the events.
We go on to the next slide.
Our best and latest tips. At this point you would
have heard -- and again, you can hear it -- it's going to
be on the knowledge base, I believe -- this was one of the
radio ads that we were running, and it is that ad for the
one that we ran in Topeka and Kansas City at the same time.
Here is the print ad that goes along with it.
And what we found with this one, this was kind of a
leap of faith. We said advertise your collection drive in
the Sunday Magazines section of the paper. And we did that
in the Kansas City area, and it's a little pricey.
You know, you kind of gulp at first, and you think,
Well, I don't know. You can get a lot of other air time,
or you can get a lot of small print ads, one-time-only kind
of things. And how many people look at that Sunday
Magazine?
Well, we found that the Sunday Magazine, people not
only look at those magazines, they keep those magazines.
We had a phenomenal turnout in Kansas City. And many of
the people we'd say, "How did you hear about this?" And
they'd say, "Oh, I heard it on the radio, but I kept the
Sunday Magazine because that's where you were too."
So we really felt like we did learn something here,
and that was a very effective way of getting the word out.
And of course that second strategy there of really
using all medias but really using both your print and your
radio at the same time to expand your audience and not just
put all your effort in one form or the other, which at
first we were much inclined I think to do.
And if we go to our next slide.
At this point you would have heard -- and again,
you still can hear if you go out and go to the knowledge
base -- you would have heard another one of our radio ads.
And this is one of our radio ads that runs continuously.
It's not just the one-time-event ad. So it runs as a
stand-alone radio promotion.
And this has really helped. We've developed those
relationships. It's with the Kansas Public Radio System,
and that has worked well to get the message out. And you
can really get a lot of attention to your program from
those stand-alone ads.
And then our next slide.
Again, learning from our close-to-disasters is,
prepare your talking points about your organization ahead
of time and -- about your organization and the event, why
you need this equipment, so that you're sure you get your
message across when you're interviewed by radio or TV.
And the other tip we have there is, before they
start interviewing you -- you know, you're on the scene;
you're hot and sweaty from collecting equipment; and they
want to talk to you. Well, ask them how long that piece is
going to be. Are we talking about a 30-second interview,
or are we talking about a 60-second interview? Do I have
longer? Can I have a couple of minutes?
And the first time we did this, we were thinking we
had 90 seconds to 2 minutes, and we had 30 seconds, and we
barely got our names out. So I would always ask before you
start an interview.
Our best tips -- and we kind of mentioned this one
earlier, but we can't stress it enough -- to meet
face-to-face with your partners before the big event. So
as many of your partners as you can so everybody's
comfortable. You're on the same team together.
Arrange the equipment drop-off site during the
week. We've gotten quite a bit of equipment dropped off
before the event itself. And I think this also helps when
people hear that advertisement and they hear that, Oh, I
can drop this off any time during the week. I may or may
not actually do it.
But I think it helps them pay more attention to
your ad. And if you're really trying to encourage the
public-awareness aspect, I think this will help.
We actually, when we first started, had long
equipment drives. We'd start at 9:00 in the morning. And,
gosh, I don't know -- Sharon can chime in -- but I think we
quit at, I don't know, 3:00 in the afternoon or something
like that. Way, way, way too long.
We've shortened our equipment drives. We went down
to four hours. Now we're down to two hours. And two hours
seems to be fine.
Like I said, we ran one in Topeka from 9:00 to
11:00, and then we moved on over to Kansas City and ran the
next one from I think it was 1:00 to 3:00. And that worked
beautifully.
Again, of course, as you all know, say thank you,
and find ways to recognize all your partners'
contributions. And I think a number of you probably know
that, you know, we sign up for all awards that we can. And
thanks to the Pass It On Center, we're able to bring awards
back to the Kansans who'd helped us with our collection
drives.
They love that, and they hang those plaques on
their walls. They're great partners and continue to be
great partners.
We move to our next one.
Our biggest bloopers. And again, probably if
you've heard us talk very much about -- or you probably
know this blooper, but it was our biggest one.
We held -- very early on in our early reuse days,
we had a booth at the statewide Earth Day Festival, which
was on the grounds of the capitol. It was a big deal to be
there. But we very, very nearly became known as the
recycling queens.
It was a recycling event. And so the equipment
that was brought to that event was really, really old and,
you know, used. It was at the end of its life. So we
quickly tried to make that split.
So we do not -- we participate in recycling events
but not as Assistive Technology for Kansans or as a
reutilization program. We really keep that separate in
what we're doing there.
And this next one is a little humorous.
I guess the point here is just be prepared for
everyone because our collection drive really attracted some
unexpected entertainment. Now, this looks really tame
here. It did not feel tame when it occurred.
And again, if you'd seen that earlier beginning
piece of footage, we're at the Area Agency on Aging, and
it's a major thoroughfare there. And on the other end of
this is all the equipment that we've got that we've
collected during the day and big banners saying, you know,
"Assistive Technology," "Equipment Reutilization,"
"University of Kansas Sponsored," you know, "Medicaid
Sponsored," all of this kind of thing.
Well, they're holding the country stampede contest
about 60 miles away from here. And so this group has
partied all night, and they actually have a stereo going,
blasting great country western music, and they're dancing,
and they're just having a fabulous time and yelling at
folks that go down the boulevard.
And I'm thinking, "Oh. Oh, my. What are we
going to do?" But it turned out great. They had a good
time. They actually helped us load some of the equipment.
They were great.
But, you know, I guess it's just like get a good
night's sleep the night before, and be prepared because you
don't quite know what's going to happen when you hold a
collection event.
And then if we move to our next slide. We're near
the end now.
What's next for us? Well, we've just completed, as
I had mentioned, a radio campaign on the Kansas Public
Radio Network which we're targeting high-cost, lightly-used
assistive technology. And that's going very well. We're
looking and currently holding other radio campaigns on
commercial airways.
We have coming up in two weeks a really unique
situation. We have an association that needed AT, and they
need AT for approximately 9,000 conventioneers. And they
wanted to borrow some power chairs and some scooters. And
they had the insurance for it and in return have offered us
just incredible free radio time, advertisement on their
marquee for our reutilization program.
And one of the key individuals with this effort
also happens to own a number of radio stations, and so he's
volunteered free radio time throughout the year.
So, you know, it's one of those things you never --
kind of like the people visiting your collection drive.
You never know what's around the corner, but look for those
opportunities.
And then we'll be planning future -- future plans
involve revisiting those target -- targeting specific
groups. And we're going to do more of that looking for
particular pieces of equipment.
And then if you go to the next slide.
We've got some resources that we've made available,
and I think some of you have seen some of these. There are
several of our pieces that are on the Pass It On Center
knowledge base that we've got the list for, planning a
collection drive and all the steps and pieces on getting
donations of high-demand, lightly used durable medical
equipment; a section on bariatric devices; and locating the
e-waste recyclers for that equipment that you can't
utilize.
And then we have a mini guide that has all of the
pieces that we've used on increasing donations, and you're
welcome to it, so if you'd just let us know. Some of the
pieces that are on that are the tips for the advanced
preparation of the interview. We've got all of our press
pieces. We've got all of the pieces for increasing the
targeted donations. And then we've got the environmentally
responsible actions.
And so then there's our information. And if you
want to contact us, we'd love to hear from you.
Okay. Patty's nicely here sharing the questions.
Why no canes? And do we refurbish walkers?
That's a great question. The Kansas program is
really, like I said, looking for high-cost, lightly used
equipment. And while we've gone down somewhat in our value
over time -- because people kept saying, but I've got this
really great piece of equipment -- basically we bring in
items that are valued at $120 or greater.
We kind of feel like we have -- well, we don't feel
like it. We know. We have limited staff, and so we think
that the equipment that we bring in really has to warrant
our staff time and our tracking time. So that's why we're
really kind of keeping the bar up there.
So we do take in some walkers, walkers that have
seats and brakes and wheels. Otherwise, we let our other
loan closet partners and others.
Then the other question -- and I'll quickly move it
to on Cathy and crew -- other question is: Do we sanitize
at the site or later?
We sanitize both. We sanitize as much as we can
during the collection drive itself. And then as soon as we
take it off the truck, we start working on sanitizing it
then.
So at this point we'll turn it over to Cathy and
Jerry and hear from Project MEND.
JERRY RIVERA: Good afternoon, everybody. Can
everybody hear me okay? Hi. I'm here. My name is Jerry
Rivera, program manager with Project MEND. And I'm here
with Ms. Cathy Valdez, executive director.
CATHY VALDEZ: Hi, everybody.
JERRY RIVERA: And -- a little louder. Okay.
And we're here to give some tips on how we collect
equipment for refurbishing. A lot of what Sara said in the
first presentation is what's on our first slide.
So if you'd like to go over to the next slide,
please. Thank you. Okay.
So obviously the first thing we want to do is have
a DME donation drive. A lot of the points have already
been covered.
So first of all, consider your donation drive
community. Is the community invested in helping out with
people who have disabilities? And are they willing to
donate equipment that is no longer being used?
The second bullet point: Decide on the location
where the donation drive will be held. Do you have a
highly visible and readily accessible location?
Unfortunately, right now for Project MEND, our
location is kind of hidden, so we had kind of a hard time
when we had our first donation drive because a lot of
people did not know how to find us. We're kind of in a
little neighborhood area, and it was kind of hard to find
our location. So it wasn't to our advantage to have a
donation drive here at home, at our home-base location.
The other thing to consider, the length of time of
the drive. Will it be an all-day event? Will it be a
weekly event? Will you have anyone on staff during the
weekend? A lot of the times people who do have medical
equipment to give can't make it during your regular
operating hours, Monday through Friday, 8:00 to 5:00, if
that's the case with your location.
So in that case, you should have a drop-off
location in case no one is available to take these
donations. Fortunately for Project MEND we do have a
warehouse, and we do have space for storing DME.
Your other option is to partner with local DME
vendors and other businesses that might want to share the
event.
And of course in the last presentation Sara was
really good about pointing out those partners. And we have
partners as well: DME vendors, local hospitals who are
interested in seeing us thrive because we help out their
clientele as well.
And, of course, make sure you have an adequate
number of staff and volunteers available to assist with
that drive. You always need enough people to be able to
load equipment, sanitize equipment, and just basically move
equipment back to your location.
And, of course, advertisement of your donation
drive is very, very important. Public service
announcements, newspaper ads. Of course they can be
pricey.
We have a great guide here in Texas called the
"Texas Senior's Guide," and that gets distributed
throughout the city -- the city of San Antonio, actually.
And the senior guide, Project MEND has in the past
purchased spots in this guide, and we get really good
response from that. Of course flyers that are passed out
by the staff. And it's always a great idea to invite your
local media.
Another thing to consider here, a bullet point that
I don't have on here, is consider your local and your state
regulations when collecting DME. Unfortunately Texas has
really strict regulations when collecting DME. So
collecting DME at sites other than Project MEND would be a
problem for us. You wouldn't want to get slapped with a
fine when trying to do something good for your community.
And I'm going to pass the mic over to Cathy, and
she's going to talk about our donation drive and our
experience with that.
CATHY VALDEZ: Hi, everybody. It's Cathy. Can
everybody hear me okay? Okay.
I wanted to talk a little bit about our experience
with our first and only, so far, DME donation drive that we
held about three years ago.
We had slightly a little larger staff than we have
now. I think we had maybe ten people instead of eight
people, something like that, on staff that was actually
available to help us out.
But we had a really active board of directors as
well as still maintain a great relationship with the
University Health System here in San Antonio. They have
various clinics throughout San Antonio, and they also have
a couple of pretty good-size hospitals throughout the city.
What we did was to coordinate that drive with the
University Health System. We decided to set up at five of
their clinic locations -- they worked with us to set up
those locations as collection sites for the DME.
And what we did was to decide to have it on a
Saturday. And I believe it was from 8:00 to noon. So we
just had it for the first part of the day. It was
during -- I guess it was probably about this time in the
year where it's, you know, extremely hot and humid. So we
probably could have shortened that length of time to maybe
just a three-hour period.
Sorry, Pat. Is that better?
What we did then was we had our board of directors,
like I said, and our staff assist us with the drive.
And the University Health System staff as well from
the five clinic locations in San Antonio also helped us out
by sending out flyers, promotional flyers that we had made,
and they distributed them at all their clinics and had them
available for everyone to see and to pick up within their
clinics and in the hospitals for probably about, I don't
know, two to three weeks prior to the event.
We also had a membership with the Texas Public
Radio folks here in San Antonio, and they are incredible.
What they did for us was to also -- they've got four major
radio stations, and they helped us to promote not just
Project MEND and their services but also this particular
event. So that helped us quite a bit.
I'm sorry. The time on the drive was actually
until noon. It was actually 8:00 to noon, not 1 o'clock.
My mistake.
We had a delivery vehicle that was at each one of
our locations -- a truck or a van at each one of those
locations to assist with the donations. And that was the
reason I was asking Sara about whether they were able to do
some kind of a quick-and-dirty sanitization of the DME
prior to putting it into their vehicles and then taking it
to their warehouse.
I don't think that we did that. I think that
everybody was wearing the appropriate garb to be able to
collect the DME and loading it onto our trucks.
The unfortunate part was -- and you can go on to
the next slide, Liz.
The unfortunate part of our drive was that, even
with the advertising that we did -- and we also purchased,
you know, newspaper ad, a nice big ad that was very costly
prior to the event.
Some of the negative results were that it still
wasn't all that well-attended, so we didn't collect a whole
bunch of DME. And some of those University Health System
partners didn't show up. So it kind of left us there.
But at the same time we had enough of the staff and
board volunteers available that, you know, I guess since we
didn't get an overflow of DME coming in, it was okay.
The good thing about it was -- and I'm not sure why
this happened the way it did; maybe people just
procrastinate -- but we did get a whole lot of phone calls
right after the event occurred, and people came quite often
throughout the next two to three weeks bringing in
donations of DME. So we did get donations, but it was --
like I said, it was after the actual event occurred.
You can go on to the next slide. And let me give
it back to Jerry.
JERRY RIVERA: Okay. Aside from having a DME
donation drive, we've been really lucky and fortunate in
the past and the present here because we've actually built
a key relationship with a company called Carex
Pharmaceuticals, and they're located in Fort Worth, Texas.
What this company does for us is -- well, what they
do is they store their DME. And some of the DME items they
can't or they're unable to sell in their stores, so they
keep it in their warehouse. They contact us. And instead
of destroying or throwing away these pieces of DME items,
they actually donate it to Project MEND.
So about twice a year Carex donates about 15 to 20
pallets -- yes, pallets; that's what I said -- pallets of
DME twice a year to Project MEND. And these pieces of DME
for the most part are brand-new.
So you're talking about -- for example, they have a
warehouse, and they store boxes of walkers or wheelchairs,
and one of those boxes happens to fall off of their storage
and falls to the ground, and it's a damaged box. Well,
they can't sell that back to their customers, so they
donate it back to Project MEND.
The great thing about that is the biomed tech that
we have here on staff brings it back, assesses it, might
have to replace a part here or a part there. But for the
most part the DME is brand-new.
And that's the great thing about building the
relationship with your local DME powerhouse. So that is
something I would highly recommend. Locate a DME
distributor in your area.
And I believe Carex is nationally known. They
might be called Carex. In some other states they might be
called Drive Medical. It really depends on your state.
Contact them and see if they're having the same
types of problems, and create that partnership and nurture
it because it's really important, and it's been really
great for Project MEND.
Next slide, please, Liz.
So building those relationships are really, really
important. And we have established many relationships in
San Antonio and throughout the Bear County and Alamo area
similar to the one we have with Carex throughout the
community.
It's really important to contact those local, small
DME vendors as well to ensure that they're not getting
their floor inventory thrown out into the garbage. Contact
them. Sometimes they're not able to sell that DME back to
customers, and that would be a great donation avenue for
anyone to pursue.
Some other key DME vendors that give us donations
are, for example, Walgreen's. HEB just donated about
20 boxes of brand-new walkers to Project MEND as well. So
I don't exactly know the story behind that, but we were
able to take that donation as well.
And here at Project MEND it's really all of the
staff's responsibility to nurture these relationships and
maintain the relationships with the DME vendors as well as
look for anything new that's happening, anything that they
may hear about. It's always a lead for us.
And of course here I have a list of all the
possible organizations that you might have in your state as
well. Goodwill, for example, is a great, great
organization that collects medical equipment for us. And
they'll do the great thing of not selling it. They'll
donate it back to Project MEND, and we'll be able to
sanitize it properly and get it refurbished properly and
then distribute it the correct way.
Promise Medical. There's a whole list of
pharmacies and hospital agencies. Senior community
centers, as well, that you may be able to tap into for DME.
Now, the unique thing about Project MEND is that,
although we are small, our case managers and myself and
Cathy are really devoted to our outreach efforts. So what
we do is kind of a grassroots effort here.
We designate a day out of the week, and we go
vendor to vendor and pass out flyers and talk about our
mission, talk about what we're doing, and ask for donations
because that's what we really need.
The demand will always be there for DME. It's the
supply that is always hurting. So we try and network with
these occupational therapists, physical therapists,
doctors, nurses, anyone who has direct access to the DME
and can probably more than likely direct us towards the
right direction for those DME donations.
Now, the case managers also attend health fair
events. And that's a great avenue for word of mouth. You
get people who always know someone who has a piece of DME
to donate and are no longer using it. So tap into your
social service agencies in your community for DME
donations.
One of the other things that I have done myself is
partner with the local military hospital here in
San Antonio. San Antonio has a huge military community.
BAMC, the local military hospital -- Brooke Army Medical
Center, is what it's called. We have a great partnership
with them.
And a funny story. I was talking to one of their
head social workers over there, and she actually had
someone on her staff order about 50 brand-new manual
wheelchairs that actually was an unauthorized purchase.
So you have the local military hospital with 50
brand-new wheelchairs that they couldn't give out. So
we're trying to tap into that donation right now as we
speak. So that's also a great avenue for you to pursue.
And, of course, one important -- oh, one slide back
please, Liz.
So one avenue you might want to consider is your
own organization's client base. A lot of the times here at
Project MEND we have clients who, for example, get in a car
accident and need a wheelchair for X amount of time, four
weeks, eight weeks. But you know that they are going to
get better. They need it for rehabilitation purposes.
So we always ask those clients, you know, "When
you're done with that medical equipment, feel free to
redonate it right back to Project MEND." We'll reassess
it, refurbish it, and that's a great avenue for donations
as well.
Any questions?
JOY KNISKERN: And now we'll just jump right on to
the next presentation, which is Sonja Schiable and Robin
Ramsey with the FREE Foundation.
We really appreciate your joining us.
And Cathy and Jerry, we really appreciate the
information that you shared as well.
So we'll get the other slides up in a minute.
SONJA SCHIABLE: Thank you, Joy. We're glad to be
here.
It looks like our slides are up. We're seeing them
any way. We can go ahead and get started.
Do you want to go to the next slide, Liz?
What we thought we'd go ahead and start with is,
before you ever even start collecting equipment, the first
thing that you really want to do is write your equipment
gifting policy.
You really want to determine what kinds of DME or
whatever equipment that you want to accept, or else you're
going to get every piece of equipment that's on God's green
acre. You need to hone down on exactly what it is you want
so you can kind of have some control of what you're going
to be getting in.
So after you've decided what it is exactly that
you're going to take, you also want to have your gifting
policy written. So that way, if you -- if someone comes
with a piece of equipment that's really not usable and you
don't want to hurt their feelings by not accepting it, or
it really is just something that's not in your realm of
what you want to gift, you have that gifting policy as an
out to let them know, "It's not in our gifting policy."
And that also just -- you know, you won't burn
bridges. You don't hurt feelings. And one thing that we
do that helps is to go ahead and suggest -- if you don't
take it, and you go ahead and just suggest places that they
could take it to, other organizations that may be gifting
that kind of item, you know, or a mission group that may be
taking that equipment so they can send it overseas if it's
not to American standards, et cetera.
So, you know, a manual hospital bed versus an
electrical hospital bed. Most people don't want to use
manual beds anymore. And same with wooden crutches versus
the metal crutches. You know, we tend to give all the
wooden crutches overseas, and everyone wants the metal
crutches because they're easy to adjust and they're so much
more lighter weight and easier to clean.
So just having those policies in place will
certainly help you before you ever get started with taking
in equipment.
ROBIN RAMSEY: This is Robin.
We started -- years ago, probably about eight or
ten years ago, with community drives. And we originally
started with a fundraising event, and it ended up becoming
more of a PR donation drive.
And what we did was a radiothon. We were trying to
raise funds, and we did an auction -- an autograph
celebrity auction.
And what we ended up getting more of -- we made a
couple hundred dollars off of our auction, but we ended up
gaining a lot of equipment donations from the community and
a lot of calls after that about wanting to donate
equipment. And so from that we started thinking more about
community drives.
Because community drives can take a lot of manpower
and a lot of hours to do, we determined that we would look
at it a little bit differently, and we would build
relationships in our community versus having event weekends
and event drives on a particular day.
And what we did was we developed close
relationships with the medical community. We are -- our
program is more of a medical model versus anything else,
and so we started with the medical community.
We also work with end-of-life agencies,
medical-equipment providers, and then other possible
partners in the community. And we're going to go through
each of those in detail to give you ideas about what that
would look like and how that would be included in your
program.
Next slide, please.
Within the medical community, we did some outreach
to inpatient and outpatient physical therapy units, and we
put brochures in their patient discharge packets.
And I think Jerry said earlier that those are
patients that are going to be getting well, and they're not
-- most of them are going to be getting well, and they're
not going to need the specialized device anymore.
And so we would put our brochure in the packet, and
then they would give us a call, and we would arrange for
them to bring it to us.
We also worked with the medical community in
regards to getting some storage space, so if you're a
brand-new program that's trying to get started in your
community.
They absolutely love working with us because they
know that, if the equipment is on-site, then they can get
someone discharged quickly because they can just send them
over to the next building at the hospital and pick up the
equipment.
So we've had chapters of the FREE Foundation that
actually have sites that are within the hospital. So
that's another way that you can get their support.
Also home health agencies. We've done inservices
at home health agencies and developed relationships with
them. Some of the -- initially eight or ten years ago when
we did those, we actually had nurses in the home health
agencies tell us that they had equipment in the trunks of
their car that they'd like to give to us before we left.
And usually what ends up happening with home health
is that the people get well, and they don't need their
equipment anymore. And they call their nurse and ask them
what to do with it.
So again, our community drive was based on
relationships versus having a large day with a lot of
manpower.
Next slide, please.
SONJA SCHIABLE: Another relationship that we
developed was with agencies that deal with end of life.
And I think this was touched on earlier as well.
But nursing facilities as well as hospice agencies
and funeral homes, all of those deal with end of life. And
when someone is finished with their equipment, then usually
the family members don't know what to do with it or where
to take it.
And so it's perfect for us to make them aware of
us, of our agency, by putting brochures in the family
packets at the funeral homes. And same with nursing
facilities and hospices. If the agencies already know
about us, then they have that information to pass on to the
families when that happens, and they can certainly --
that's one less burden for them to have to worry about.
Another thing, too, with nursing facilities is they
do have storage -- we have equipment right on-site for
them.
ROBIN RAMSEY: A lot of times with residents that
pass away, family members don't want to take their
equipment. The nursing home ends up with it, and they get
stuck with a basement full of equipment.
And we've gone around and given inservices to the
nursing facility staff, and they then have wanted to have a
spring cleaning of their facilities. And they'll spring
clean their facilities, and their staff will bring over
equipment in trucks to our donation site. So they get rid
of it, and then we can kind of pick through what we want
and what we don't want.
SONJA SCHIABLE: And that's one of the situations
where you really want to have your gifting policy completed
and know it, so that way you don't get stuck with all the
garbage. You get the good stuff. And you have that out.
Next slide, please.
ROBIN RAMSEY: With DME providers,
durable-medical-equipment providers, they can easily refer
clients that bring their equipment back to them that no
longer need it.
In our state, many times if your insurance pays for
it or if Medicaid pays for it, then it's owned by the
patient or the client. And oftentimes they'll bring it
back to the DME provider, and the DME provider can't accept
it. And so they'll hold it and bring it to us.
They also give information to the clients and place
our brochure or stickers on the equipment and let them know
that, if they don't need it, that they can call us.
And then also one of the things that helped us when
we first got started many years ago is we partnered with a
medical-equipment provider, and they helped to teach us how
to clean and inspect the equipment.
They also -- they were placed where we -- they gave
us a closet for the first year or two until we grew out of
it. It was a large closet, but they gave us a closet for a
couple of years to help us get started. So if you're a new
organization, a new program, that can be a place where you
could also get some storage space.
They also gave us a technician one day a month to
help us repair brakes and help us to repair electrical
equipment and to make sure that the devices were very sound
devices before they went out to other people. And so
that's a great resource for not only equipment but also
technicians volunteering hours, and cleaning and storage.
Next slide, please.
SONJA SCHIABLE: And I see Denise had a question
about our brochures.
The brochures that we put in the packets are our
agency brochure, is what we use. We can certainly pass
that on to Joy and have our brochure available for that.
ROBIN RAMSEY: And originally when we started, the
brochure was nothing more than something that we did
in-house to get it out. And now that we've grown, it's
been revised a couple of times.
And it's just our personal brochure, and it has our
website and phone number on it.
SONJA SCHIABLE: It tells our mission and what we
do so that's what we use for that.
Possible partners. One thing I think that Jerry
had mentioned earlier is (...audio skip...) organizations
are already just naturally collecting donated equipment
from the community. It's different for every community.
For us in our community, people tend to take their
durable medical equipment, medical equipment to Goodwill.
So that's a partnership that we set up early on. Back in
2004 we partnered with Goodwill on having them get the
equipment donated to them, and they would give it to us.
And I'll let Robin go into that in a little bit
more detail here in a minute.
For some communities it's not Goodwill. It might
be Salvation Army. It could be churches. I know one of
the communities -- well, one of our chapters are in
Virginia. I think it's called God's Storehouse. And so
that's where all of the community takes their equipment
that they're not using any longer.
So you just need to kind of find where your niche
is in your community and talk to them and try to come up
with a partnership with them. So it's definitely a place
to start.
Lion's Club, Ruritans. They usually have closets
of equipment as well, and it's good to partner with them so
that the client's getting the right equipment, a good match
that you can get from them from the Lion's Club or the
Ruritans as well.
Next slide, please.
ROBIN RAMSEY: With the possible partners we wanted
to share more detail about our relationship with Goodwill.
With Goodwill it started about six or seven years ago.
And Goodwill is in our community -- in a couple of
our communities. They are the natural place where people
just -- they're spring cleaning out of their closets, out
of their basements, and they naturally just bring the
equipment in because they no longer need it.
Because that was such a natural fit in our
communities, we developed a relationship with them. And so
Goodwill is wonderful at getting the donations -- that they
didn't know what to do with it, and they were getting
overloaded with it. And a lot of the equipment, if it was
broken, they really didn't know what to do with it.
And then what FREE is good at is we're great at
cleaning and sanitizing and repairing the equipment with
qualified volunteers that are in the medical community and
doing the application process and making sure that the
right device goes to the right person.
And we also -- in other communities -- we were
talking about the Salvation Army. There's not a Goodwill
in that area, then the Salvation Army is the natural. So
in each of your communities just check and see where your
natural partnership is.
SONJA SCHIABLE: And of course, like any
partnership, you have to make sure it's a win-win situation
for both parties. You know, there's -- in order to market
it to the agency that's taking in the equipment that you
may need, is letting them see how it is going to be a
win-win situation for them because everybody wants to make
sure it's going to work on both ends.
ROBIN RAMSEY: And we get a natural out with
Goodwill that was -- these are the devices that we need,
but when we get too much equipment, if we get too many
walkers, then they keep them. They keep the excess, and
they sell them.
And typically what we do is someone might come into
their store and say, "I need a walker, but I can't buy it."
They'll send them to us, and if somebody comes to us and
they can purchase it an affordable way, then we'll send
them across the street to Goodwill.
We also have internally -- any equipment that we
receive, after we've cleaned it, inspected it, and know
that it's a good piece of equipment, we put out -- we put
on a sticker that has our phone number and our web address
so that, if the person is done with it, they can naturally
call us.
As well as, part of our data collection, we call
folks a month after they've received the equipment and
check on them. And we ask them during that time when we're
checking on them and how the equipment is working for them,
we ask them that when they no longer need it, if they'd be
willing to donate it back.
And we remind them that the sticker is on their
device and that, if they don't remember our phone number,
they just look on the wheel of the wheelchair or on the
side rail of the bed, and our phone number is right there,
and they can call us back.
So that's an easy thing. It doesn't cost you
anything but labels and some printing.
Lessons learned. Sonja, do you want to do that?
SONJA SCHIABLE: Sure.
Lessons learned. One thing -- before you start
taking in all of this equipment, one lesson that we've all
learned is to make sure you have adequate space to store it
all.
You could get all kinds of equipment and have no
place to put it, and it's no fun having your own garage
filled with all of that equipment.
Determine boundaries for picking up equipment. You
know, if you say, "Yes, I'll take that hospital bed," and
then you're driving a Honda Civic, you've got to think that
through, that either you're going to say, "Yes, I will pick
up equipment," or you may have it be part of your gifting
policy is that people have to bring the equipment to you.
ROBIN RAMSEY: And that's ours.
SONJA SCHIABLE: That's ours, yes. We don't go
pick up equipment. We have them bring it to us or drop it
off at a Goodwill.
Have an outlet in place for unusable equipment.
You will get equipment in that -- you know, there's always
a lot of -- there's diamonds in the rough, but there's a
lot of rough.
So definitely already have thought through that.
Be proactive and sort of reactive as far as what you're
going to do with that equipment that's really not reparable
or reusable at American standards.
We do ship stuff to third-world countries. The
shipping laws have changed, so that's made it very
difficult. It's not as easy as it used to be.
Also one thing that we use a lot is recycling
companies that are in the community. So look and see what
you have for salvage and how you're going to get stuff to
salvage if needed.
ROBIN RAMSEY: And with that local recycler, that's
been a great win-win for both of us. They bring a large
container, and we go through and put in the devices that
aren't reparable, and they come back and take it.
But when they do, we get a little check. You know,
it's not a lot, but we get a little check back from the
aluminum or from the steel from these devices.
SONJA SCHIABLE: So we get a little money, and they
get our metal.
So that's in a nutshell from us. Does anybody have
any questions?
Back to you, Joy.
JOY KNISKERN: Thank you again, Sonja and Robin.
And we're going to just move on and advance to the
next slide. We have about four minutes to go, but we'll
move ahead.
And one of the things I hope that we can accomplish
today is that all of you out there, that you'll be able to
take one piece of what you've learned and apply those steps
and apply those strategies.
And get back with us, and let us know what you've
learned; what were your bloopers; what did you learn; what
worked; what didn't work.
And let's go ahead and advance to the next slide.
What we're going to cover in the next few minutes
briefly is an experience we had in Georgia with our very
first collection drive, a faith-based collection drive.
And I want to thank Rhonda Perling, who's a social
worker and our AT funding specialist. Wasn't able to be
with us here today, but she helped to really put this
presentation together.
Also Touch the Future and Friends of Disabled
Adults and Children, part of our Star Network, they were
partners in developing this faith-based collection drive.
We produced about a hundred items, 55 DME items
that we collected and 45 computers, laptops, and printers
as well as cell phones.
So we can advance to the next slide.
It was really an interesting experience for us.
Rhonda actually knew a pastor in a church near her home and
through something totally unrelated to work. And so she
called this pastor, and said "We've been working on putting
together a notion of a faith-based collection drive for
reused equipment."
The pastor said, "I remember you. And you know
what? I understand DME. I understand assistive
technology. We would love to partner with you. My son had
Lou Gehrig's Disease, and he passed away a few years ago."
And so you never know about the serendipity that
seems to occur when you just reach out and make an effort.
We knew that we wanted to do it in an urban area,
in Atlanta specifically, because our two major hubs for the
Star Network, both FODAC (Friends of Disabled Adults and
Children) and also Touch the Future are all here.
And this happened to be a very large congregation,
which suited what Rhonda was looking for. They have over
3,000 families with the congregation.
She also wanted to look for a multigenerational
congregation because of all of the interesting things that
we could do with that and also having people who are older
in the congregation as well as younger people as well.
We also wanted to look for a service-oriented
partner. And this particular church has an assisted-living
facility that they developed through partnering with HUD.
They also have HUD housing towers. So they have a lot of
people who aren't even in their congregation that are
affiliated and using those facilities at the towers and the
assisted-living location.
They also have a very well known in Atlanta pre-K
to 12th grade school. And again, many of the parents there
are not even affiliated with the congregation. They just
know it to be a very, very good school.
The monthly congregation also does already donation
drives, food drives, sock drives. And so this fit right in
with their concept of doing service for the community.
So with that we developed a little timeline. I
don't know if you can read the actual timelines. I'm going
to go through this in narrative form in a moment.
Rhonda contacted the pastor. You can see that on
the left-hand window. And then there were I think one or
two planning meetings with the pastor as well as Chris
Brand with Friends of Disabled Adults and Children, Joanne
Willis. I think Bob Rust may have been involved over at
Touch the Future Inc. And they do refurbished computers
and laptops.
With that then Liz, who's with us today, developed
this wonderful flyer that's on our knowledge base. And
there was an e-mail blast done to the congregation about
six weeks prior to the event.
And then there was -- and it wasn't just to the
congregation. They sent this e-mail blast also to all the
parents of the kids in the schools, everybody in the
assisted-living facility, the staff, you name it.
And so it was a huge list of people that they sent
this to. And then they did the second e-mail blast about
two weeks prior to the event.
Then we had the event. And this one was only one
hour. We'll talk about that in a minute. And then I'll
talk about pickup and feedback in just a minute.
So we can advance to the next slide.
And thank you those of you who can stay past 3:30
just for a few minutes longer.
Again, as I said, we started planning six months
out. That was largely because the congregation has so many
other donation drives that they do each month. And so they
put us on the calendar, and then we developed the flyer.
That was a pretty straightforward thing. You'll see it on
our knowledge base.
And as I mentioned, then six weeks out the flyer
was sent out to everybody: congregation, all the people
with their service initiatives in school. And then two
weeks out they sent the second e-mail blast. Not much time
involved in that.
Next slide, please, Liz.
And so then on the day of the event, it was done at
the church, and they gave us space in the foyer. They have
a very large foyer storage area at this particular church.
And Rhonda as well as about five other staff of
volunteers were there at about 10 o'clock, from 10:00 to
11:00, and people were to drop off equipment.
Then they also had the option of dropping off
equipment the week before. And they were also able to drop
off some of the computer red-lighted items and overflow
items at the school across the street as well as at the
foyer there.
We didn't plan on taking the equipment away that
day. It was just during that one hour that we were there.
The minister also -- we talked about public
awareness as a part of this whole donation drive
experience. He thanked all of our partners in front of
everybody: Tools For Life, FODAC, Touch the Future.
They also set up this little basket where people
could give cash donations. And I think we got about $50
during that.
But again, this is just one service. What if we
did something like a multiple event with several groups
across the city in different churches or faith-based
organizations and tried the same thing?
The day after the event, that following Monday, the
plan was that FODAC would take a truck and pick up the
donations and all of the equipment and the computers Monday
between 9:00 and 12:00 noon. And it was done at that time
because of carpool arrangements with the school that they
have.
And we had said in advance that we wanted canes,
crutches, walkers, bedside commodes, gently used items,
tub-side benches, wheeled hospital beds. We got one of
those, although we didn't specifically ask for hospital
beds because we were concerned about how bulky that would
be. We also asked for computers, laptops, printers, and
cell phones.
And so we'll advance.
And we learned from that experience. We learned
quite a bit, as you'll see in a minute.
We didn't specify specifically what we needed. I
mean we just said canes, walkers, all that stuff that I
just went over.
What we should have done -- and Rhonda said, yes,
this is what we need to do the next time -- is ask for
gently used power chairs, manual chairs, hospital beds,
walkers, maybe bariatric items, and some of the other
items.
She said we don't need any crutches. We got so
many crutches, and FODAC already gets a lot of crutches.
What we also found was that the majority of the
computer electronics and cell phones and printers, they
were not usable.
And so what we gathered from that -- because I
think ReBoot of Touch the Future Inc. has a very strong
partnership with many organizations -- there might be a
different way to target a collection drive specifically for
that kind of equipment.
We also learned that we didn't need six staff on
the day of the drive. We actually had three volunteers and
three staff there. Two easily would have suited the needs
at that one location. But again, because it was our very
first experience, we didn't know. So we learned from that.
And we'll advance the slides.
And so, again, Liz is going to talk a little bit
about CEUs and CRCs and also I think a bit about our
program evaluation.
But before we move to that, are there any questions
that folks have today for any of the speakers and about any
of the material that we presented?
LIZ PERSAUD: Hi, everyone. This is Liz with Pass
It On Center.
I just wanted to point up in the public-chat Allen
with PARI Independent Living Center had a question for
Sonja and Robin with FREE in Virginia.
And he asked: How do you find qualified
volunteers?
And their answer was: Allen, we worked closely
with the medical community in this. We recruit physical
therapists, occupational therapists, and equipment
technicians. We also invite leaders in these fields to
participate on our board.
So thank you and Robin for that answer.
And I also know that you guys said that you sent us
the FREE brochure. And as Trish responded, we'll get that
up in the knowledge base so folks have access to it.
JOY KNISKERN: Thank you so much for joining us
today. We really appreciate your participation.
I also want to give a final thanks to all of our
speakers. We really appreciate all the excellent materials
they've provided for us.
And you will be getting an evaluation form, and we
look forward to talking with you next month for our next
webinar.
LIZ PERSAUD: Just to remind everyone for credits,
if you need CEUs, visit the AAC Institute. And if you are
in need of CRCs, please send me, liz@passitoncenter.org, an
e-mail in order to receive your verification form with your
name, organization, city, state, and corresponding e-mail
address.
We also have survey evaluations set up through
SurveyMonkey for Pass It On Center. It's in the chat box.
And I'll post that again. So if y'all can just take a few
moments and fill out the survey. It shouldn't take you
more than five minutes. We greatly appreciate it.
Thanks again for joining us, and thanks for hanging
on with us a few minutes after.
See you guys next time.
JOY KNISKERN: Also, Liz, one more item. I think
that we need to -- she needs to get your name,
organization, city, state, and e-mail address for CRCs no
later than a week from today, sort of close of business
next Tuesday, because of time frames we have to meet with
that.
Thank you.